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Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022.
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nemokosch hah, it's kind of reassuring that vrurg came to a very similar conclusion about versioning 10:33
Reassuring but not exactly relieving
Geth rakudo/main: d9f2767c27 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/RakuAST/Deparse.rakumod
RakuAST: cleanup deparsing of simple RegexDeclarations
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lizmat m: default { say "default" }; say "not seen" 12:18
camelia default
lizmat that was a bit unexpected :-) 12:19
nemokosch Well, that's the charm of when 12:23
Actually I wish succeed existed outside of when stuff 12:24
lizmat I sorta expected it to be a compile-time error without any when
nemokosch Hm, can it even be resumed? 12:26
m: default { say 'that is a funny way to introduce a block'; proceed; } say 'the temple of consumption' 12:27
Raku eval Exit code: 1 ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /home/glot/main.raku Strange text after block (missing semicolon or comma?) at /home/glot/main.raku:1 ------> ny way to introduce a block'; proceed; }⏏ say 'the temple of consumption'
nemokosch Right, the semicolon 12:28
m: default { say 'that is a funny way to introduce a block'; proceed; }; say 'the temple of consumption'
Raku eval that is a funny way to introduce a block the temple of consumption
nemokosch For the record with that pull request: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonsense usually if I write an "essay" of a comment, I wouldn't want to ruin it with random insults, sometimes one just has to invoke a definition 12:40
By the way, I wonder 12:45
m: my \if = 5; if.succ.say 12:46
Raku eval 6
nemokosch :DD
lizmat m: sub if($a) { say $a }; if 42 12:47
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> sub if($a) { say $a }; if 42⏏<EOL>
expecting any of:
block or pointy block
nemokosch m: my \if = 5; say if + 4;
lizmat m: sub if($a) { say $a }; if(42)
camelia 42
Raku eval Exit code: 1 ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /home/glot/main.raku Unsupported use of bare "say". In Raku please use: .say if you meant to call it as a method on $_, or use an explicit invocant or argument, or use &say to refer to the function as a noun. at /home/glot/main.raku:1 ------> my \if = 5; say⏏ if + 4;
nemokosch Aalmoost 12:48
m: my \if = 5; dd if + 4;
Raku eval block <unit>()
nemokosch Hm
Does Raku even have reserved words? 12:49
lizmat yes, syntax consists of fixed strings in the grammar 12:51
nemokosch I think this is like approaching the same broader phenomenon from two directions 13:13
there are words that have special meaning in the Raku grammar, that's for sure
but those words can (seemingly) also appear in contexts (within the same slang) where they don't retain the special meaning 13:14
lizmat m: "foo" "bar" 13:15
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> "foo"⏏ "bar"
expecting any of:
infix stopper
statement end
statement modifier
statement m…
lizmat depends on whether they are in a term position or not
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Xliff 58.18671 13:18
13.82014 13:19
nemokosch then the question would more accurately be: are there words that cannot be used as terms?
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Raku-GLib suite timing statistics for Raku 2023.09.9.gb.58.c.3203.cc
Using the following processor: 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K
Total number of projects: 34 (518011 loc)
Total non-parallel compile times: 7343.420 (215.983 avg)
Total parallel compile times: 1208.283 (35.538 avg) 6.078x speedup
vrurg Xliff: In your GLib it looks like using something like `submethod BUILD (:$hash-table, :$!type) { $!h = $hash-table }` is a common pattern. Why not safer `submethod TWEAK(:hash-table($!h), :$!type) {}`? 16:00
nemokosch what exactly is BUILD for? what uses it? 16:21
Geth rakudo/main: f4ceaf95d9 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | lib/RakuAST/Deparse/L10N/NL.rakumod
RakuAST: tweak some of the NL L10N
Xliff vrurg: Thanks for noticing. PRs welcome! You'll find that there is a lot of that all over this and subsequent releases. Mainly becuase I haven't touch that code in years. My style has changed since then and you will notice your pattern cropping up in later releases.
If you feel like it, please create an issue and I'll get to it when I can. 16:49
Thanks for looking at GLib!
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