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Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022.
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nine The whole language version management code is absurdely complex. We have - including all subvariants - just 7 different language versions. How can this require 200 lines of code including generated code? 07:16
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Geth rakudo/main: c053144ab5 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | src/Raku/Actions.nqp
RakuAST: fix regression on `use v6.*;`

On a use v6.* $vWant turned out to be "v*". But we can just use
  @final-version instead. The first part will be the revision number.
  lizmat++ for the heads-up
ab5tract considering that language versions are not totally clean breaks between each other (v6.d has many more features/fixes now than when released), I wonder if it's worth revisting nemokosch's critiques of the release strategy/versioning scheme now that said discussion is less liable to be soaked in vitriol 09:09
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nine m: sub foo($a is copy) { BEGIN dd $a; dd $a; $a := Mu }; foo(1) 10:23
camelia Mu
Any $a = 1
Type check failed in binding; expected Any but got Mu (Mu)
in sub foo at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
nine Is it really desired behavior that at compile time the parameter $a has a value of Mu instead of Any? 10:24
lizmat I think it's more an implementation artefact than anything else 10:36
as Mu is the base state in HLL Raku? 10:37
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nine t/02-rakudo/13-exceptions.t tests specifically for Mu in that error message 10:43
lizmat I'd say we adapt the test: it's an implementation detail, not in roast 10:45
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ab5tract I've been looking for a while but haven't found it yet.. how exactly would one go about peeking into the value held in a MVM (frame) register? 11:21
Comments in the source say that I need to use a temporary register to store any value that is going to be read, but that's as far as I've been able to get.. 11:25
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[Tux] Rakudo v2024.03-179-gc053144ab (v6.d) on MoarVM 2024.03-6-gd5dafa9b4
csv-ip5xs0.260 - 0.265
csv-ip5xs-201.124 - 1.140
csv-parser1.545 - 1.588
csv-test-xs-200.142 - 0.142
test1.926 - 2.016
test-t0.419 - 0.423
test-t --race0.272 - 0.272
test-t-205.100 - 5.134
test-t-20 --race1.198 - 1.235
nine ab5tract: in what environment? In gdb I just `p *tc->cur_frame->work[123].o` 13:13
MVM_dump_p6opaque is also quite helpful there 13:14
ab5tract Ah, I was hoping for something a bit more high level, like using debug statements from the QASTRegexCompilerMAST routines I’m poking at 13:22
I’ve added a workable print_debug method to MAST::Frame that’s guarded by an env var 13:24
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ab5tract I tried using the assign op, but so far that refuses to work on a variable. Maybe I can get further with bindattr 15:21
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ab5tract just tried poking at `./rakud-lldb-m` and .. this is definitely going to be a learning curve 17:41
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