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ab5tract japhb: you hit the FD limit in the OS, right? 08:59
this $=finish thing is pretty tisted 09:00
*twisted 09:04
I can confirm that the $COMPUNIT.finish exists and has the correct .value before $COMPUNIT.to-begin-time is called in Actions.nqp 09:05
but adding $!finish to PRODUCE-IMPLICIT-DECLARATIONS 09:06
doesn't accomplish anything
(PRODUCE-IMPLICIT-DECLARATIONS in CompUnit) 09:07
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ab5tract AFAICT, $!finish should be visited during to-begin-time, which should plop the declaration into the current scope 09:20
lizmat ab5tract: you mean $=finish ? 09:25
that should live in UNIT
m: dd UNIT::<$=finish>:exists
camelia Bool::True
ab5tract unit points to the current compunit, right? 09:37
anyway, it's not about the user side of things, this is an ordering problem in the compiler somehow
R#5855
linkable6 R#5855 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5855 [RAKUDO_RAKUAST=1] Could not find a compile-time-value for lexical $=finish
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ab5tract well, I've got it compiling 10:32
CHECK $=finish works
but CHECK UNIT::<$=finish> returns `Any` instead of the expected contents
I'm not sure how much of a dealbreaker that is .. 10:52
whoa, what! 10:53
I just fixed it :O
[Coke] nice 11:00
ab5tract doh, rakuast flag was unset :( 11:01
lizmat ab5tract++ 11:05
ab5tract I have a feeling I'm solving it improperly, but maybe it still means we are getting closer
I'm really curious how these implicit vars get attached (eventually) to the UNIT psuedostash 11:14
lizmat: any idea how the pseudostashes are created and filled in? 11:21
Geth rakudo/r5855-finish-shenigans: fa919b5376 | ab5tract++ | src/Raku/ast/code.rakumod
Initial pass at fixing R#5855 (#5855)
 11:22
linkable6 R#5855 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5855 [RAKUDO_RAKUAST=1] Could not find a compile-time-value for lexical $=finish
ab5tract so yeah, the above is probably not a proper fix 11:32
CHECK say +UNIT::.keys; # 0
evalable6 722
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ab5tract so I think the real issue is that UNIT is not populated.. and I have no idea how to fix that 11:33
Geth rakudo: ab5tract++ created pull request #5953:
Address problems with `BEGIN/CHECK` and `$=finish` and friends		 11:58
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[Coke] kicking off blin run 15:29
releasable6: status
releasable6 [Coke], Next release will happen when it's ready. There are no known blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
[Coke], Details: gist.github.com/58b4d6dae959e7f098...47e701574d
[Coke] why is that saying "when it's ready"? :( 15:30
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japhb ab5tract: In this case I was hitting the default FD limit, yeah. But ulimit can reduce that (though not in this particular case), and thus is what should actually be paid attention to. 16:24
jdv_ [Coke]: that's a good question. the release guide looks correct. idk... 16:35
oh, no. its listed in the todo and the done sections:( my bad.
fixed 16:37
Geth rakudo/main: 89765fe8ba | (Justin DeVuyst)++ | docs/release_guide.pod
Fix typo. The 2025-09 release didn't happen yet...
[Coke] c: 2025.08 say 3 16:49
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦2025.08: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œ2025.06ā€?)Ā»
[Coke] jdv_: no, I added it to the bottom section to try to trigger it, it was doing the same thing before
(so that wasn't you)
... didn't we have a 2025.08?? 16:50
lizmat rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2025.08 says we did
[Coke] can't do a blin run without commitable having a copy
c: 596e83949 say 3
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦596e839: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œf748397ā€?)Ā»
[Coke] c: 133f44c87 say 3 16:51
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦133f44c: Ā«3ā¤Ā»
[Coke] c: f56482941 say 3
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦f564829: Ā«3ā¤Ā»
[Coke] c: d370e0513 say 3 16:52
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦d370e05: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œd73d035ā€?)Ā»
[Coke] c: 752f13179a5e67a6f2917caf291f6910f73ca7cf say 3
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦752f131: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œ43066b9ā€?)Ā»
[Coke] c: 451be071c02d95e0f2e2cbd06074ae26c14b612b say 3
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦451be07: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œ321ccbbā€?)Ā» 16:53
[Coke] c: 451be071c02d95e0f2e2cbd06074ae26c14b612b say 3
committable6 [Coke], Ā¦451be07: Ā«Cannot find this revision (did you mean ā€œ321ccbbā€?)Ā»
[Coke] 451be071c02d95e0f2e2cbd06074ae26c14b612b is the first bad commit
linkable6 (2025-08-27) github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/451be071c0 Revert "Optimize unsigned native ++/-- (#5926)"
[Coke] starting there we don't have commitable builds. 16:54
.ask alex.daniel is commitable not building new revisions atm?
tellable6 [Coke], I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/Raku/whateverable/wiki/Tellable
[Coke] .ask alexdaniel is commitable not building new revisions atm?
tellable6 [Coke], I'll pass your message to AlexDaniel
[Coke] if someone can fix that, I can start the blin run.
jdv_ oh. was afk. 17:05
idk then:)
yes, i did the 2025-08 release. unless it was a fever dream.
later & 17:06
[Coke] releasable6: next? 17:08
releasable6 [Coke], Next release will happen when it's ready. There are no known blockers. Changelog for this release was not started yet
[Coke], Details: gist.github.com/95c3d54aaa4b493662...bc072d87d9
[Coke] I also did start the changelog. :(
we only have 6 commits to process at the moment. 17:09
(since last release) 17:10
and only 3 of those are "real"
so we can probably skip again this release.
lizmat I would concur 17:21
[Coke] OK. I'm still on the next one since jdv did the last one. 18:22
weekly: skipping September release. Do we need to advertise that? 18:24
notable6__ [Coke], Noted! (weekly)
[Coke] I am seeing jdv in a few hours, will also ping him on this.
patrickb After a two week delay, I've finally composed the rakudo 2025.08 compiled release files. 19:43
Yay!(?)
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[Coke] Thanks, patrickb 23:04
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