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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| patrickb | lizmat, ab5tract: Currently the problem is not powering it on, but having it show up on the network. Possibly my tests have been faulty and the thing actually does not connect to network before logging in. That's where the JetKVM will help, because it will give me a screen and keyboard, even when the PC itself isn't on the network yet. | 07:11 | |
| jdv: For some, probably purely emotional reason, I dislike having my signing key leave the house / be in potentially unsafe environments. (It has a pretty long passphrase, but the dislike is decidedly unimpressed.) | 07:18 | ||
| lizmat: The JetKVM is both, a remote power switch and a HDMI / Keyboard / Mouse <-> Ethernet converter. The combination should allow me to recover from about any mess up. (Well, except if I have to reinstall the entire machine.) | 07:21 | ||
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| lizmat | TIL | 09:11 | |
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| gfldex | I just hit "Too many local variables in MAST::Frame. Up to 65534 are allowed. This frame (<unit>) has 640626". We may want to document that raku source files got a size limit that is not all that big. | 11:00 | |
| timo | that's just per frame, you can have more locals if you make more frames for them to be in | 11:30 | |
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| lizmat | feels to me something should be in an array or a hash ? | 12:20 | |
| gfldex | It's a 37MB source file containing a singe large hash. The idea is to stick that into a module to get it precompiled. So it's not really up to me to decide what goes into what frame. | 13:21 | |
| As a side node, I'm trying the same in Nim now. The Nim compilier is compiling for 90 minutes now. So at least we are much faster at not getting it done. :) | 13:22 | ||
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| jdv | what is in this 37M hash? | 13:48 | |
| timo | yeah i would really recommend making a BEGIN statement that constructs the hash from the source data instead of generating raku source code | 14:03 | |
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| timo | someone recently pointed out that jnthn wasn't fond of optimizing the compiler for "extreme cases" such as when you generate source code | 14:04 | |
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| jdv | any general idea why? | 14:12 | |
| on principle, waste of time, lack of interest? | 14:13 | ||
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| timo | i would assume "waste of time", maybe optimizing for something weird can cost us in other more common cases. just speculating | 14:29 | |
| you can look at liz's module, i think Text::Emoji is the name, it has a huge hash of name to emoji mappings and back | 14:35 | ||
| gfldex | jdv: It's a small subset of mappings of star system names and 3d coordinates of Elite Dangerous. Because space ships are best ships! | 14:42 | |
| jdv | nice | 14:48 | |
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| [Coke] | releasable6__: next | 16:37 | |
| releasable6__ | [Coke], Next release in ≈21 days and ≈2 hours. There are no known blockers. 7 out of 7 commits logged | ||
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| jdv | [Coke]: did you ever figure out github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5775 ? | 17:29 | |
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| MasterDuke | did t/02-rakudo/15-gh_1202.t get fixed? | 18:24 | |
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| MasterDuke | github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2287 is an interesting one, `say class Foo does Real {}.new == 42` crashed my kde session | 18:37 | |
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| MasterDuke | timo: github.com/timo/moarperf/pull/19 | 19:01 | |
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| timo | infinite recursion i bet | 19:34 | |
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| Xliff | gfldex: Was lurking and saw your Elite Dangerous comment. What form does the 37M hash originate from? | 22:19 | |
| [Coke] | jdv: nope, would have closed it if so. :) | 22:35 | |
| It's also happening just running spectest in a checkout and following the instructions from make | 22:36 | ||
| jdv | yup. i put a little time into it. maybe tomorrow. | 22:46 | |
| Geth | rakudo/coke/releng-archive-master: 5a442c55d7 | (Will Coleda)++ | tools/releasable/Akefile RELENG use master from t/spec for archive Fixes #5829 |
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| rakudo: coke++ created pull request #5866: RELENG use master from t/spec for archive |
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| [Coke] | jdv: Cool, happy to leave that one to you. :) | 22:53 | |
| Xliff | .tell gfldex Was lurking and saw your Elite Dangerous comment. What form does the 37M hash originate from?. | 22:57 | |
| tellable6 | Xliff, I'll pass your message to gfldex | ||
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