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| Geth | rakudo: ivanyoung10++ created pull request #5900: Added comments to sanity tests |
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| ab5tract | I wonder if there is any modern build system that could handle our requirements for Rakudo | 16:39 | |
| timo | "a bucket of shell scripts" :P | 16:50 | |
| what requirements are you thinking of in particular? | 16:57 | ||
| harelang.org/blog/2025-06-11-hare-update/ something a friend just linked; this has a description of some tooling that lets devs write matching rules against source code of the language. probably relevant to the ast querying topic we also briefly discussed at the summit /cc patrickb, MasterDuke17 | 17:15 | ||
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| ab5tract | timo: I'm thinking about the abstract set of requirements that have been solved by smashing a highly specialized unicorn (NQP::Configure) into a sanity-deprivation tank (automake, or at least Makefile.in templating) and a Configure.pl on top of that | 18:15 | |
| zig build seems to be quite powerful, for example | 18:17 | ||
| timo | i think part of the reasoning why we have NQP::Configure and Configure.pl is that we don't want to have more dependencies, especially no dependencies that are a pain in the arse to get on windows | 18:19 | |
| windows at least has "Shitmake" | 18:20 | ||
| though i'm not sure getting perl is not a pain in the arse. at least Strawberry Perl exists and isn't so hard? | 18:21 | ||
| ab5tract | I don't know how much it's worth catering to making "build from source easier". Torture the developers and all | 18:34 | |
| timo | you mean there's not so much benefit to this particular piece of torture? | 18:37 | |
| ab5tract | or the torture could be redistributed from devs maintaining/altering the build setup onto the subset of devs that are actually building from source | ||
| [Coke] | after travelling from about 7:30 AM CEST to about 9PM EDT on tuesday, my neck doesn't hurt, but sitting isn't great. :) | 20:04 | |
| ab5tract | [Coke]: welcome home! | 20:25 | |
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