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ab5tract | nine: you mentioned earlier that we should be adding "fixed in RakuAST" tests. I definitely agree, but it's totally unclear how to actually do that | 00:23 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
afaict there's no solid way (outside of errata) to add version or (even more usefully) release specific tests | 00:24 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
FWIW, I would be adding way more test cases if the above were possible | 00:47 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | ab5tract: sounds like it'd just require beefing up the fudger a bit | 07:01 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | wouldn't just marking them as "todo "fixed in RakuAST'" be sufficient ? | 07:32 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | Passing todos count as failures in the harness | 07:33 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | I thought only unexpectedly passing todos were reported ? | 07:34 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | ¦ rakudo: lizmat self-assigned Inconsistent interface among .substr/.substr-eq/.substr-rw github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1720 | 08:15 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Geth | rakudo/r1705: 88628f59eb | ab5tract++ | src/core.c/metaops.rakumod foo |
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Geth | rakudo/r1705: f0aa962a79 | ab5tract++ | src/core.c/metaops.rakumod Give META_REDUCE_RIGHT behavior for 1-arg case This aligns the behavior of `META_REDUCE_RIGHT` to that of `META_REDUCE_LEFT` when handling 1-arg cases: > sub infix:<@> ($a, $b) is assoc<left> { [$a, $b] } > say [@] 10 ... (7 more lines) |
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lizmat | ab5tract: op.count can be Inf | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | ah, so that would blow up the iseq_i check | 10:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/r1705: 9459057eb5 | ab5tract++ | src/core.c/metaops.rakumod Give META_REDUCE_RIGHT behavior for 1-arg case This aligns the behavior of `META_REDUCE_RIGHT` to that of `META_REDUCE_LEFT` when handling 1-arg cases: > sub infix:<@> ($a, $b) is assoc<left> { [$a, $b] } > say [@] 10 ... (7 more lines) |
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ab5tract | note that I'm not 100% convinced that this is the right direction for a fix: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/17...2122279730 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
also not quite sure how an infix with infinite arguments is supposed to be called, grammatically speaking, but then again an infix with 1 or 0 args doesn't make much sense to me either (I'm running slow today) | 10:43 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
am I missing something or is the Inf case not handled at all in the base code either? | 10:51 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | could very well be... it's just that I recently worked with .count in ParaSeq and got bitten by Inf :-) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | ah, gotcha :) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | ab5tract: I'd be a bit more cautious with the "fixed in RakuAST" label. It can just be that the mis-behaving optimization hasn't been implemented yet in RakuAST. | 11:19 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | Ah, fair. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | maybe change the naming of the label to: "probably fixed in RakuAST" ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | Well, some things we know for sure are fixed | 11:20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So maybe a new label instead | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | works for me | 11:21 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | We only know for sure if there is a spectest covering it. Otherwise the high code churn may lead to regressions for these issues. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | That’s different than “maybe fixed” though | 11:23 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’ll pause my Issue Quest to work on the required harness changes | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Unfortunately I anticipate pushback on versioned tests, as it implies tighter coupling between the test suite to Rakudo | 11:33 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
patrickb | nine: Can you have another look at github.com/Raku/problem-solving/is...1984532814 please? | 11:40 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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lizmat | ab5tract: indeed, the only versioning in roast should be language level | 12:02 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | then it should never be expected to pass on anything but HEAD of rakudo | 12:03 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
you really can't have it both ways | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | current roast passes the tests on HEAD indeed, and once that becomes 6.e, then roast will be frozen in that state | 12:04 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
like it has with 6.d | 12:05 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | so there's no problem with adding a test which won't pass on, say, 2024.04? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
(but does pass on HEAD) | 12:06 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | sure | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
github.com/Raku/roast/tags # 6.c and 6.d tests | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | I guess I misunderstood the decoupling then | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
well, that makes things easier :) | 12:07 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | when 6.e is released, the then state of roast will be tagged with 6.e | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
and we take it from there again :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
meanwhile there's a 6.d-errata branch, which corrects errors found in roast tagged with 6.d | 12:08 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | roast: 3434882538 | ab5tract++ | S12-construction/construction.t Test that all parents' attributes are set with .new This addresses the remaining piece of R#1679. |
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linkable6 | R#1679 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1679 [tests needed][regression] BUILDPLAN sharing optimization appears to have broken ancestor attribute initialization | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | roast: 92262facef | ab5tract++ | S06-other/main.t Remove erroneous todo fudging |
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ab5tract | so is using the Q | |.AST.EVAL form appropriate for RakuAST tests? if so, I don't think the fudger needs modification after all | 13:37 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Geth | roast: 4b9624630e | ab5tract++ | S03-sequence/misc.t Add test for R#5520 |
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linkable6 | R#5520 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5520 [tests needed][Fixed in RakuAST] Chained sequence and `for` | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | like so ^^ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | why use is_run? | 13:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
if you use a push to an array instead of .say | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
you could use ann is-deeply | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
my @result; Q| @result.push($_) for 1...5...3 |.AST.EVAL; is-deeply @result, [1,2,3,4,5,4,3] | 13:45 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract ^^ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | m: @result.push($_) for 1...5...3; dd @result | 13:46 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Variable '@result' is not declared. Perhaps you forgot a 'sub' if this was intended to be part of a signature? at <tmp>:1 ------> <BOL>⏏@result.push($_) for 1...5...3; dd @resu |
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ab5tract | m: my @result; @result.push($_) for 1...5...3; dd @result | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | Ah, I tried reproducing the bug using `[~]` and there wasn't an issue with base | 13:47 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | m: use Test; my @result; Q| @result.push($_) for 1...5...3 |.AST.EVAL; is-deeply @result, [1,2,3,4,5,4,3] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | ok 1 - | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | yes, looks good. but what's the problem with is_run? just to understand | 13:48 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
[Coke] | does is_run use a new process? | 13:49 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | as I'm going through all of these tickets, I'd prefer not to have to spend significant time reproducing alternative versions of the provided cases | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | yes | 13:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
it runs a new process | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | Was .AST meant as a public API? I thought it was more a helper for during RakuAST development. | 13:54 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | roast: 83905d26ef | ab5tract++ | S03-sequence/misc.t Prefer version without is_run |
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ab5tract | nine: good question. unfortunately the test doesn't appear to work when providing `use experimental :rakuast;` in the block scope | 13:57 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | A very simple solution would be to add these new tests to rakudo itself and migrate them to roast after RakuAST has become the default | 13:59 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | nine: how about using .AST as place holder in roast, to be removed by the time 6.e is default ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | nine: I had considered putting them in rakudo... if we go that route, is it alright for them to land in a single file? | 14:10 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | The important part is to have them in the first place :) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | sure, but I have to ask these things because clearly there's a lot of things to be concerned about, and I'm not wise enough to see them in advance :) | 14:11 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | roast: 27317e54d8 | ab5tract++ | S03-sequence/misc.t Keep .AST out of roast |
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lizmat | that... works?? | 14:18 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m: say "foo"; { use v6.*; } | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp> Too late to switch language version. Must be used as the very first statement. at <tmp>:1 ------> say "foo"; { use v6.*⏏; } |
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Geth | roast: 4da1bb7969 | ab5tract++ | S03-sequence/misc.t Fix plan |
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lizmat | also: "use experimental :rakuast" **only** makes the RakuAST classes available | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | damnit | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | it does *not* change the grammar | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | that's a very important distinction, thank you for clarifying | 14:20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
it wasn't what I intended to push :( | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | again: why not a todo 'fixed in RakuAST' ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | I feel like I'm getting some conflicting information here... | 14:22 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | I mean: there are *many* todos in roast | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | IIUC, the todo would just be cosmetic? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
if roast is onlyt | 14:23 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | ok, the question is really: do we mean to check the RakuAST implementation doesn't regress ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | if roast is only caring about HEAD, then what's the point of a todo? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | or do we mean to check that it will be fixed in 6.e ? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | the first one | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | a todo would cover the latter, so ok: todo is out | 14:24 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ok, then I suggest we add a t/12-rakuast/fixes.rakutest file | 14:25 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
and put all of these types of tests there | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
sorry for the confusion and thanks for the perseverance and nudging :-) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | lizmat++ | 14:32 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m: use Test; lives-ok { Q| use trace; my %a{Str} |.AST.EVAL }, "trace pragma works with hash shapes" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | 2 (EVAL_0 line 1) my %a{Str} ok 1 - trace pragma works with hash shapes |
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ab5tract | any easy way to divert the trace output to /dev/null? or should I not bother being so picky | 14:33 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | github.com/lizmat/Trap/blob/main/l...ap.rakumod :-) | 14:34 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | Tracing is implemented by generating nqp::getstderr().write_fh(...) calls, so I doubt Trap would catch that | 14:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | ah, good point! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
so I guess any trace tests *would* benefit from using is_run :-) | 14:39 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | which is is-run in Rakudo and is_run in roast :) | 14:40 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
with different syntaxes too.. maybe we can port is-run over directly at some point | 14:44 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/main: 22a7a89742 | ab5tract++ | t/12-rakuast/fixed-in-rakuast.rakutest Add the first 'Fixed in RakuAST' tests In order to prevent regressions, we will be accumulating test cases for issues that remain open but which have been confirmed working with RakuAST. First up: R#5520 (#5520) and R#5546 (#5546). |
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linkable6 | R#5520 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5520 [tests committed][Fixed in RakuAST] Chained sequence and `for` | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
R#5546 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5546 [tests committed][Fixed in RakuAST] Interaction of `use trace` with hash shapes | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | lizmat: does R#5536 need a test? | 14:59 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
linkable6 | R#5536 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5536 [Fixed in RakuAST] discrepancy in --doc output between standard/RAKUAST | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | I think that's covered in the doc tests | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
there's a special RakuAST version of that I seem to remember | 15:00 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | glad to hear it, because I have no idea how to write a test for that :) | 15:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
this one is also a bit tricky.. R#5396 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
linkable6 | R#5396 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5396 [Fixed in RakuAST] Using a FIRST block in while loop causes unexpected behaviour | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | is there a test in roast for this maybe marked as todo or skip ? | 15:13 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | m: Q| my &a = *.uc ~ *.lc ~ (*.uc ~ *.lc); my &b = *.lc ~ *.lc ~ (*.lc ~ *.lc); &a eqv &b |.AST.EVAL ==> say() | 15:18 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | True | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | boo | 15:19 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ahh, that's probably fixed in nine++'s branch | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat: not sure about that. maybe [Coke] knows? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | ab5tract: doesn't look like it's fixed there | 15:33 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | bummer :/ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
iiuc, this would have been working prior to the move away from using deparse in the .raku representation | 15:35 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | So we're getting the wrong source code location for infix expressions? | 15:41 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | I haven't looked into it closely but I did notice .raku breaking for more complex WhateverCodes earlier | 15:52 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m: Q| my &b = *.lc ~ *.lc ~ (*.lc ~ *.lc); dd &b |.AST.EVAL | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | Callable &b = ~ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | m: Q| my &b = *.lc ~ *.lc ~ (*.lc ~ *.lc); say &b.raku |.AST.EVAL | 15:53 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | ~ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | but which `~` ? :) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
m: Block+{Callable[Int:D]} ~~ Block; | 15:56 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | Use of uninitialized value of type Block in numeric context in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 Cannot resolve caller Numeric(Block:D: ); none of these signatures matches: (Mu:U \v: *%_) in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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ab5tract | how does one hold this kind of type object, I wonder? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gfldex | You need to bind it to a symbol. There is no user interface to create _this_ typeobject, other then going through .^mixin . | 15:59 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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ab5tract | gfldex: this is for a test case, so the question is a bit of a chicken and egg situation. can't really bind it to a symbol if the grammar chokes when parsing it, right? | 16:12 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gfldex | m: dd Block but Callable[Int:D]; | 16:15 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | Int:D = Block+{Callable[Int:D]} | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gfldex | m: dd (Block but Callable[Int:D]) === (Block but Callable[Int:D]); | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | Bool::True | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gfldex | This could be seen as a caching artifact. | 16:16 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
nine | Probably interning, not just caching | 16:20 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/rakuast-phase-cleanup: b42721bec2 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | src/Raku/Actions.nqp RakuAST: fix infix expressions origins only covering the operator itself This led to the WhateverCode generated for *.lc eqv *.uc only getting "eqv" as its $!original-expression |
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nine | ab5tract: ^^^ | 16:23 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This was a pretty easy fix for once | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | \o/ | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
gfldex: ah, thatt's clear, thanks | 16:30 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/main: ddde58bec1 | ab5tract++ | t/12-rakuast/fixed-in-rakuast.rakutest Add most of the remaining 'Fixed in RakuAST' test cases A select few of them are a bit more complex, so I'm leaving them as a challenge for a different day. |
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rakudo/main: 2c3602de28 | ab5tract++ | tools/templates/Makefile.in Provide test harness support to .rakutest files in t/ |
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rakudo/main: 5a122c60ab | ab5tract++ | t/12-rakuast/fixed-in-rakuast.rakutest Un-todo a working test |
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lizmat | ab5tract: why reduce the test count? was it wrong? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
ab5tract | yes :) | 17:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
lizmat | m: subset Even of Int where * %% 2; .say for (^10).grep(Even) | 18:38 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | 0 2 4 6 8 |
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lizmat | m: subset Even of Int where * %% 2; .say for (^10).hyper.grep(Even) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
camelia | A worker in a parallel iteration (hyper or race) initiated here: in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 Died at: Type check failed in binding; expected Callable but got Even (Even) |
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lizmat | didn't even know that that's not a thing | 18:39 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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ab5tract | nice! | 18:43 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/rakudoc-comment: d961a05154 | (Will Coleda)++ | lib/Pod/To/Text.rakumod Z<> is a comment - do not render it as text. Fixes #5574 |
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rakudo: coke++ created pull request #5575: Z<> is a comment - do not render it as text. |
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[Coke] | I feel like this needs a test! | 20:14 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"This is Z<not> OK" now renders as "This is OK" | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/main: c1cc007f96 | (Will Coleda)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | lib/Pod/To/Text.rakumod Z<> is a comment - do not render it as text. Fixes #5574 |
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lizmat | looks good to me! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
[Coke] | WOOT | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Geth | rakudo/main: 22932c27a8 | ab5tract++ | t/12-rakuast/fixed-in-rakuast.rakutest Un-fudge the regex code param tests The tests were previously broken due to a syntax error, not because of any regression. |
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