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| lizmat | no, that will just .throw the Failure if the block exited with a Failure | 00:08 | |
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| [Coke] | github-- again for suggesting someone wants us to buy copilot for business. | 15:22 | |
| japhb | :eyeroll: | 17:54 | |
| lizmat | maybe it's time to move away from github | 17:55 | |
| [Coke] | eh. it's hidden on the settings somewhere, I'm just annoyed everytime I see it | 17:57 | |
| japhb | lizmat: Got a good replacement that is owned and operated in the EU? (I think we've had a similar conversation, but I forget the results.) | ||
| [Coke] | I'm in no rush to move, fwiw. | 17:58 | |
| Don't want to impact release management, for one. | |||
| japhb | Nothing says it has to be an all at once move | 17:59 | |
| lizmat | japhb: still investigating.... | ||
| japhb | The biggest things currently keeping me on GitHub are: 1. Being able to point to my repos and activity stats when prospective employers ask if I "do any open source stuff". 2. Markdown+Mermaid+LaTeX+... for docs, rendered on the fly. 3. CI/CD that I have some basic clue about. 4. Network effects for forks/PRs | 18:02 | |
| But none of those are particularly strong or something that no one else could provide, aside from maybe the network effects. | 18:03 | ||
| lizmat: And thank you for that! | |||
| nemokosch | Codeberg is something to consider, that's where Zig moved | 18:11 | |
| melezhik. | Ok. My two cents - forgejo ( the same as codeberg technically ) plus dead simple ci )) instead of yaml pipelines | 18:25 | |
| If of course for self hosted | 18:26 | ||
| I recently announced some public forgejo instance of mine to play with | |||
| japhb | When you say "the same as codeberg technically" do you mean "It literally uses the same server software"? | 18:36 | |
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| disbot12 | <melezhik.> Yep “Codeberg.org is a public instance/platform, and the primary, showcase instance for the Forgejo software.” | 18:42 | |
| <melezhik.> Forgejo itself in turn is a gitea fully open source fork | 18:43 | ||
| <melezhik.> Also that - www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/zn..._platform/ | 18:44 | ||
| <melezhik.> Now - dead simple ci ( by my authorship ) is external ci runner for forgejo replacing yaml ( actions ) by general purpose languages | 18:45 | ||
| patrickb | I think a move brings with it loads of work with little immediate benefit. Also I believe this is not a situation of "if only there is a champion willing to do the work, then let's go". Because many people will have to adapt. | 18:53 | |
| Just to make that clear: I'm not a GitHub fan at all and for quite a while I've created new repos over on sourcehut instead of GitHub. | 18:55 | ||
| disbot12 | <melezhik.> Yep. I invite btw everyone to try out ( beta testing ) my forgejo instance integrated with dsci - deadsimpleci.sparrowhub.io/doc/README , at least it might give a sense what an alternative may look like even without choosing dsci itself , but it’s kinda cool 😎 and I am looking for beta testers )) | 19:05 | |
| <melezhik.> Source hut is good however I am not a fun of sending patches by email thought for some teams this may fits he best … | 19:06 | ||
| <nemokosch> Patrick made a good point. I know for myself that leaving Github will be a casual nuisance "with no benefit" (apart from breaking ties with Microslop) | 19:42 | ||
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| japhb | I think the biggest benefit would be getting out of US jurisdiction. But yeah, this sure as heck isn't a freebie operation. | 20:24 | |
| [Coke] | As the person who inadvertently started the conversation, I don't think we have the resources to work on a migration, even if we do it a bit at a time. | 20:44 | |
| japhb | [Coke]: I actually was thinking more along the lines of "Figure out a suitable replacement, make sure tools like mi6 do the right thing there (e.g. generating proper CI scripts), and let people know it's available *if they want to switch their own hosting*" We don't even have to say it's a GitHub *replacement*, but rather a *fully supported alternative*. | 22:55 | |
| (And one that we've researched enough to know that it's more likely to satisfy folks unhappy with GitHub for various reasons.) | 22:56 | ||
| [Coke] | We could do that, but even that seems like a lot of work for something people are probably pretty opinionated on their own about | 22:59 | |
| ... but if someone does it, sure, share it. | 23:00 | ||
| japhb | :+1: | 23:01 | |