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nwc10 good *, #raku-dev 08:08
lizmat Files=1334, Tests=113514, 223 wallclock secs (29.22 usr 8.67 sys + 3113.80 cusr 303.79 csys = 3455.48 CPU) 08:32
nwc10 o/
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lizmat notable6: weekly 12:14
notable6 lizmat, 2 notes: gist.github.com/c5236975850d2cc72a...5c0808729d
lizmat .tell demostanis still not sure why this wouldn't need to be in the ecosystem, for ease of installation 12:15
tellable6 lizmat, I'll pass your message to demostanis
lizmat notable6: weekly reset
notable6 lizmat, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2020-08-17T12:15:26Z”
nwc10 does NQP implement todo for tests? Or just skip? 12:35
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MasterDuke looks like it has todo 12:43
nwc10 OK, I missed that :-) How/where?
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demostanis Hello, world! 12:52
tellable6 2020-08-17T12:15:19Z #raku-dev <lizmat> demostanis still not sure why this wouldn't need to be in the ecosystem, for ease of installation
demostanis lizmat: It can't be in ecosystem as it requires root to install and to use. 12:53
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lizmat why does it require root ? 12:54
I'm not sure I want to promote a product that requires root for something that does not actually requires root access to work
MasterDuke nwc10: github.com/Raku/nqp/blob/master/sr...qp#L39-L42 12:56
demostanis lizmat: Its main purpose it to install software from Github, which might need root, for example to install executables in /usr/bin, or for many other reasons. As install instructions will be specified in user-provided rules, they must be root-owned, so that malware/untrusted users/anything else can't modify these rules and thus can't replace rules by something dangerous. It can't prompt for user credentials 12:58
once the software are getting installed as HubToDate may run inside of a crontab in the future.
nwc10 thanks 13:03
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Geth nqp/more-hash-tests: dd6b6fee54 | (Nicholas Clark)++ | t/nqp/108-vmhash.t
More tests for NQP hash behaviour.

Tests for iterators, including deleting the hash key corresponding to the current iterator position. Tests for exceptions before and after starting iteration (which are not yet consistent between the three backends).
Test `.elems`. More thorough tests for `.kv`.
Also fix a test description.		 13:49
nqp: nwc10++ created pull request #657:
More tests for NQP hash behaviour.		 13:56
lizmat and another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2020/08/17/2020-...ion-types/ 14:03
[Coke] nwc++ 14:05
nwc10++
nwc10 this was why I wanted to build JS
Altai-man lizmat++
[Coke] are there instructions for doing the JS build? 14:07
I got to the point where I just use the node package because I'm lazy
nwc10 I found that I needed node v10 14:09
v11 and v12 didn't work, I think because soemting ("us") has pinned npm packages that are too old to deal with v11 or later 14:10
so I built the most recent v10 release from source and used that
on a machine with a new enough gcc
(That's linux)
seems that it only supports g++ on Linux, and (only?) clang on OS X (and *BSD?)
but this might be a constraint from whatever v8 demands. 14:11
anyway, it's fussy.
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Geth rakudo/sorting-with-junctions: 410a428783 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Rakudo/Sorting.pm6
Make .sort about 4.4x as fast on Int/Str/Num arrays

  AlexDaniel++ expressed concern about the Junction check causing a
slow down in sorting. And he was right. However, when looking at the profile, it occurred to me that most of the overhead of sorting was caused by using the default infix:<cmp> logic. With the multi sub "compare" now inbetween, it was possible to turn this overhead ... (9 more lines)		 16:41
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AlexDaniel sourceable6: ‘foo’ cmp ‘bar’ 17:12
sourceable6 AlexDaniel, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9d6d....pm6#L3650
AlexDaniel sourceable6: <foo> cmp <bar> 17:17
sourceable6 AlexDaniel, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9d6d....pm6#L3650
AlexDaniel sourceable6: <42e1> cmp <42e1> 17:19
sourceable6 AlexDaniel, github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9d6d...s.pm6#L184
AlexDaniel lizmat: I made a review, I hope it's not too long 17:33
lizmat: but TL;DR is that `compare` multis form their own cmp table just like this one, except that it's different: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/9d6d...s.pm6#L172 17:34
so basically you're trying to recreate the same thing but fast… I mean… yeah, it's something the compiler should do 17:35
lizmat: if you care about my advice then I'd suggest to talk to jnthn to figure out why a call to `cmp` is not optimized into a simple nqp::cmp_* call 17:38
or whoever knows about this
[Coke] m: say e 17:53
camelia 2.718281828459045
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releasable6 Next release in ≈4 days and ≈23 hours. 2 blockers. Please log your changes in the ChangeLog: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft 19:00
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Geth rakudo/sorting-with-junctions: 3f60d0a70b | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Rakudo/Sorting.pm6
Emulate exact behaviour on lists with IntStr/NumStr

First check numerically, if they're the same, then compare as strings.		 20:19
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Altai-man lizmat, hi! I have moved your RFC article to 19th, hope it isn't wrong for me to move it. Thanks a lot for articles! 21:56
Oh, no, this is probably a very bad idea.
Ok, moving it back. 21:57
AlexDaniel lizmat: I'm sorry, but as I said, I don't think an optimization in this particular form can work without sort regressions 22:47
I think we'll have to figure out something else
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