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🦋 Welcome to the IRC channel of the core developers of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org #rakulang). This channel is logged for the purpose of history keeping about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Logs available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/live.html | For MoarVM see #moarvm Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| nine | ab5tract: I could easily setup wireguard to get into my home network. I just have never really needed that. ssh has always been enough. But recently I upgraded my Wifi router to latest openWRT and I guess I forgot to enable even that. | 06:40 | |
| m: say Q|for ^10 { }; 1|.AST.statements.head.sunk | 06:41 | ||
| camelia | True | ||
| nine | lizmat: ^^^ | ||
| The last statement of an EVALed comp unit is not sunk. Otherwise you'd never get the produced value | |||
| Ah, now I read that you noticed that already :) | 06:42 | ||
| [Tux] | Asked to up the version of Text::CSV. Inc in META6.json is the only thing to be done? And should that also require "6.d" (instead of 6.c)? | 07:19 | |
| lizmat | [Tux]: yes, META6.json is enough, unless you also specify versions in the "class" statement | 07:24 | |
| 6.d would be a safe bet by now | |||
| [Tux] | done | 07:28 | |
| lizmat | did you do the release already? I'm hoping on updating Slang::Tuxic later today | 07:29 | |
| making it ready for the RakuAST world | |||
| ah well, I'll be in the next release :-) | 07:31 | ||
| *it'll | 07:43 | ||
| nemokosch | why does Text::CSV still live in p6c? | 07:56 | |
| lizmat | I guess someone needs to tell [Tux] how to migrate to the zef ecosystem :-) | 07:58 | |
| nemokosch | fez upload 🧠 | 08:02 | |
| anyway, I haven't said this in a while, maybe it's for the better... but I actually think the condition of CompUnit stuff AND also the ecosystem architecture is kind of a blocker for Raku adoption | 08:03 | ||
| and unlike improving the runtime, this probably doesn't require technical wonders, "only" some willingness to let go | 08:04 | ||
| Geth | Slang-Tuxic/main: c585abc714 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 13 files Prepare for update to zef, test CI |
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| nemokosch | docs.raku.org/language/compilation#Why_change? there is this page and it's somewhat reassuring that by now I anticipated all of these points | 08:08 | |
| It's just not enough justification for the price imposed on everybody, namely that the filesystem based resolution is useless for production purposes. | 08:09 | ||
| [Tux] | lizmat, you *do* have commit. Just go ahead :) | ||
| lizmat | True that... but I don't have Tux credentials on the zef ecosystem :-) | ||
| [Tux] | Ah, so what does that Tux person need to do? | 08:15 | |
| nemokosch | if there is no zef:Tux then maybe get fez first and do fez register | 08:22 | |
| lizmat | deathbyperl6.com/faq-zef-ecosystem/ | ||
| nemokosch | zef install fez | 08:23 | |
| Geth | Slang-Tuxic/main: 4ae8eee5c0 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META6.json Oops, forgot to add dependency |
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| nemokosch | is this also a fresh release? | 08:26 | |
| lizmat | nemokosch you mean Slang::Tuxic ? | ||
| nemokosch | yep | 08:28 | |
| lizmat | yeah, that will be a fresh release, with RakuAST support | 08:33 | |
| [Tux] | fez register finished | 08:36 | |
| lizmat | [Tux] ok, will do the rest to the Text::CSV module once I'm done with Slang::Tuxic, ok ? | 08:37 | |
| your login name be "tux" I assume ? | 08:38 | ||
| so auth<zef:tux> ? | |||
| [Tux] | or Tux. Don't know if it is case-sensitive. Thanks! | ||
| >>= Username: Tux | |||
| lizmat | it is case sensitive afaik | ||
| ok, so Tux it is then | 08:39 | ||
| Geth | Slang-Tuxic/main: 4a0935ac95 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | lib/Slang/Tuxic.rakumod First stab at supporting RakuAST Sadly, this still fails when run with RakuAST. Will need more investigation. |
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| Slang-Tuxic/main: c84066d968 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | Changes 0.0.2 |
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| lizmat | the RakuAST support is still incomplete, and may actually need some Raku grammar tweaks, otherwise it was ready for release | 09:00 | |
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| |Tux| | regarding the META change: is there *anything* I need to do other than up the version in META on upcoming changes? | 10:24 | |
| lizmat | well, unless you introduce new dependencies ? | 10:28 | |
| |Tux| | so, change, inc version, push, done. ? | 10:32 | |
| and do I switch from `zef` to `fez`? My time routine now invokes stuff like `zef update`, `zef install --exclude=perl Slang::Tuxic` and `zef upgrade --exclude=perl Slang::Tuxic` | 10:35 | ||
| lizmat | that remains the same, fez is only for uploading dists | 10:40 | |
| it's like the CLI for PAUSE | |||
| like zef is the cpan CLI | 10:41 | ||
| (at least, last time I looked at the cpan CLI about 10 years ago :-) | |||
| |Tux| never used the CPAN CLI | 10:43 | ||
| lizmat | personally, I use App::Mi6, which wraps fez | 10:44 | |
| notable6 | 10:50 | ||
| notable6: weekly | |||
| ah, yeah AlexDaniel is working on that :-) | |||
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| AlexDaniel | lizmat: I tried to bring it up but I'm getting: | 11:57 | |
| Invocant of method 'match' must be a type object of type 'Any', not an object instance of type 'IRC::Client::Message::Privmsg::Channel'. Did you forget a 'multi'? | |||
| lizmat | interesting... hmmm | ||
| AlexDaniel | also I don't think that there are any saved notes :) | 11:58 | |
| for this week I mean | |||
| lizmat | ok, good to know :-) | ||
| AlexDaniel | the annoying part about all those errors is that I'm not getting any line numbers at all :( | 11:59 | |
| lizmat | and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2023/09/25/2023-...eleaseses/ | 12:01 | |
| Geth | Inline-C/main: d40e7baa67 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | README.md Announce archivation |
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| Slang-Tuxic/main: 8fd132bebd | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files 0.0.3 |
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| lizmat | Slang::Tuxic now works with RakuAST | ||
| vrurg | .ask Xliff In your GLib it looks like using something like `submethod BUILD (:$hash-table, :$!type) { $!h = $hash-table }` is a common pattern. Why not safer `submethod TWEAK(:hash-table($!h), :$!type) {}`? | 13:50 | |
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| Geth | Slang-Tuxic/main: d5aa7a0229 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 3 files Check CI after having removed atkeyish hack |
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| Slang-Tuxic/main: 6819c2afe0 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files 0.0.4 |
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| rakudo/main: fbacec3869 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/RakuAST/Raku.rakumod RakuAST: only produce sigil if there is one |
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| rakudo: ab5tract++ created pull request #5394: RakuAST: Several `*` tidbits |
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| lizmat | ab5tract: ready to merge ? | 17:58 | |
| Geth | rakudo/main: 54c5682f9d | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/core.c/Rational.rakumod Make sure Rational.raku is correct The interface to the Rational role uses two positionals. Rat and FatRat have their own .raku logic, but the role didn't. This meant that it fell back on the generic .raku, which uses named arguments, which doesn't work. Now .raku is correct. |
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| rakudo/main: a9d8b78382 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | src/Raku/Grammar.nqp RakuAST: set $sigil safely even if there was no sigil match |
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| rakudo/main: 7dc21fcff6 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 2 files Add a sigilless-variable token |
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