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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| deloriandoon | m: my $s = "ABBA"; .say for $s.match(/<same>/), $s.match(/<:same>/), $s.match(/(.)$0/), $s.split(/<same>/), $s.split(/<:same>/), $s.split(/(.)$0/) | 00:29 | |
| camelia | ｢｣ same => ｢｣ Nil ｢BB｣ 0 => ｢B｣ (AB BA) (ABBA) (A A) |
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| deloriandoon | is this madness or am i too stupid for raku? been playing around with some str functions and repeating character sequences | 00:30 | |
| i'm failing to see the consistency in these results | 00:31 | ||
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| Geth__ | Raku-Steering-Council/main: 6c65c612ce | (Daniel Sockwell)++ | announcements/20220908.md Create 20220908.md (This commit ammends/replaces a previous commit that mistated the durration of the probationary period due to a typo/thinko/mental lapse.) |
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| Raku-Steering-Council/main: 584336240f | (Daniel Sockwell)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | announcements/20220908.md Merge pull request #49 from Raku/20220908 Add 2022-09-08 CAT report |
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| lizmat | weekly: stackoverflow.blog/2022/09/08/this...hers-perl/ | 08:28 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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| perlsol | Hi, can you believe... I only now just found out about Raku!!! And I have been a perl head since 2000...omg | 08:33 | |
| lizmat | perlsol: welcome :-) | 08:42 | |
| perlsol | Which leads me to a question... I develop anything and everything with perl but it has become increasingly difficult linking to modern resources... For example, my next task is to build a responsive website linked to a corp. outlook calendar, after looking at from a visual studio angle first i'd decided to close that and open my notepad++ and go | 08:43 | |
| back to perl, problem is... The lack of updated modules making life hard. | |||
| Thus the question I have is, are the raku modules recent | 08:46 | ||
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| perlsol | Hi lizmat | 08:46 | |
| lizmat | perlsol: well, the oldest module in the ecosystem is about 13 years old, and the newest is from last week I believe :-) | 08:47 | |
| raku.land is where you'd look | 08:48 | ||
| Nemokosch | perlsol: this is a constant work-in-progress | ||
| the tools are available, the people are enthusiastic - only there could be more of them | |||
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| perlsol | I thought perl was dead, spent all these years playing perl and sort of feeling alone as other languages moved on... So please to read this today, very shocked I hadn't found out sooner... An announcement on cpan would be helpfull in getting more numbers, i'm onboard so you just gained another one at least😊 | 08:54 | |
| Nemokosch | that's nice :) | 08:55 | |
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| perlsol | Thanks for your responses, will check back here soon | 09:01 | |
| lizmat | take care! | ||
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| tonyo | . | 09:34 | |
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| tonyo | hmm, thought there was something | 09:59 | |
| lizmat | .tell tonyo testing | ||
| tellable6 | lizmat, I'll pass your message to tonyo | ||
| lizmat | looks like it's working from this side | 10:00 | |
| tonyo | oh, found it - tbrowder working on your libcsv stuff for the next couple of hours, including GH actions | ||
| i guess one of the glowing-bear tabs picked it up and weechat stopped alerting | |||
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| tonyo | tbrowder: you're aware that csv_write in libcsv is used to escape one field? are you looking for an interface to send, say, a []hash and get the world's most beautiful CSV? | 11:05 | |
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| tbrowder | well, that would be cool. so far i've only used it for reading and its interface is a bit easier than CSV::Parser for my coding use and style. the main problem for me at the moment is getting the mi6 workflow to work for testing. i haven't yet been successfull moding it to work. | 12:31 | |
| consequently, my modules that use it fail testing. | |||
| El_Che | another ban? | 12:33 | |
| tbrowder | i am considering creating a new module that wraps CSV::Parser to get a style for my own use. | ||
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| tbrowder | .tell perlsol speaking only for myself: file issues if updates or new features are needed. i love having users. also see the modules wanted repo | 12:37 | |
| tellable6 | tbrowder, I'll pass your message to perlsol | ||
| tonyo | ? | 12:51 | |
| tbrowder: would be interested in your thoughts on an interface, it's on my radar to make CSV::Parser faster now that i'm a little more nqp fluent. i have code in the repo to allow you to quote a field and another to take an array of array[Str-able] and will make a CSV for you | 12:52 | ||
| tbrowder | ok, i think there might be a comment there already, but i'll look and add a bit. i think a year or so ago we talked about it here. it may not be in either repo, | 13:00 | |
| it might be later today, some other stuff to do... | 13:01 | ||
| lizmat | OOC, what is wrong with Text::CSV in this picture ? | ||
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| tonyo | no worries tbrowder , updating libcsv repo to use GH actions (you can use .github/workflows/libcsv.yml as a template) and you now have an interface for write-file | 13:04 | |
| tbrowder: github.com/tony-o/perl6-libcsv/blo...libcsv.yml | 13:07 | ||
| lizmat: dunno if you mean why i'd revamp but CSV::Parser can handle binary and arbitrary length delimiter|quote|line-sep | 13:11 | ||
| lizmat | I thnk Text::CSV can as well ? | 13:12 | |
| tbrowder | Text::CSV seems not to be testing for one thing, at least no green tag. Also, it's more complicated than I need when I'm the one creating my own CSV files. No doubt it's one to use with stranger CSV files. | 13:15 | |
| tonyo | ah, it didn't used to | ||
| last time i checked, though, was about 10 years ago - CSV::Parser was my first raku mod | 13:16 | ||
| lizmat | I see.. well, Text::CSV was Tux's first Raku module as well :-) | ||
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| tonyo | which came first, Text::CSV or Slang::Tux ? | 13:18 | |
| lizmat | Slang::Tuxic was a prereq for Tux to work on Text::CSV | ||
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| El_Che | :) | 13:19 | |
| lizmat | so Slang::Tuxic :-) | ||
| El_Che | fix the pet peeve first, then the itch :) | ||
| lizmat | it was more like a bet :-) | ||
| that Tux was glad to lose :-) | |||
| El_Che | big of him | ||
| iirc it was a whitespace thing? | 13:20 | ||
| El_Che googles | |||
| El_Che giggles | 13:21 | ||
| tonyo | oh that's right | ||
| El_Che | this made me laugh as wel: | 13:22 | |
| Hillel | 13:23 | ||
| @hillelogram | |||
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| 8h | |||
| Gen-Z programmers are always chasing the new shiny thing like Tailwind and Svelte instead of learning CS fundamentals, like React | |||
| lizmat | yeah, also, allowing whitespace between object and method: foo .bar | ||
| El_Che | oops, sorry for multiline paste | ||
| lizmat | but Larry decreed that to be ok at some point | ||
| Voldenet | you're wrong | 13:26 | |
| jquery is obviously cs fundamentals | |||
| El_Che | for cs archelogists :) | 13:27 | |
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| Voldenet | you can write react as jquery plugin, but jquery can't work in react | 13:28 | |
| it's obvious which is fundamental | |||
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| Altreus | > foo .bar # oh dear, I would *definitely* misread this basically every time | 14:45 | |
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| Altreus | I suppose it makes sense because that whitespace as \n would be perfectly understandable and I'd be mad if it didn't work | 14:46 | |
| I guess I wouldn't misread foo .bar if foo(.bar) was not meaningful :D | 14:47 | ||
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| melezhik | o/ | 14:54 | |
| weekly: sparrowdo.wordpress.com/2022/09/09...e-airflow/ | |||
| notable6 | melezhik, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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| Scimon | So, has anyone else here seen duckdb? I read an article on the Register and then fell down a Nativecall whole. | 15:20 | |
| Or hole even | 15:22 | ||
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| tbrowder | melezhik: howdy, podnuh =):-) | 15:34 | |
| tellable6 | tbrowder, I'll pass your message to melezhik | ||
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| tonyo | tbrowder: does that help with the github actions and libcsv module? | 15:45 | |
| tbrowder | just got back...checking now... | 15:46 | |
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| melezhik | . | 16:28 | |
| tellable6 | 2022-09-09T15:34:58Z #raku <tbrowder> melezhik: howdy, podnuh =):-) | ||
| melezhik | tbrowder howdy! podnuh ... - is it something Louisianian ? | ||
| tbrowder | or Texan, or cowboy wannabee (:-D | 16:30 | |
| melezhik | yeah, so my guess was correct ))) | 16:33 | |
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| tbrowder | tonyo: the github-workflows branch works with "zef test ." (andbut i still don't know if it works on github. can you add a test banner on yr README? | 16:44 | |
| tonyo | oh, yea - it's also in the main branch | 16:45 | |
| that github-workflows branch needs deleting | |||
| Geth | doc/repl-sub: 7ab4e7f62c | (Daniel Sockwell)++ | doc/Type/independent-routines.pod6 Add &repl Document the &repl sub, completing one item from the 2021.06 checklist (issue #3907) |
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| doc: codesections++ created pull request #4107: Add &repl |
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| doc: cfd3870cc7 | (Daniel Sockwell)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/independent-routines.pod6 Add &repl (#4107) Document the &repl sub, completing one item from the 2021.06 checklist (issue #3907) |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/independent-routines | ||
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| Geth | raku.org: 69171f15fd | (Daniel Sockwell)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/index.html Replace Raku Conf registration w/ video link Because the 2022 Raku Conference has now taken place, the commit replaces the "Register now!" call to action with a link to the stream replays. Once individual videos are up, it might make sense to update again. |
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| doc: 3bafb696f5 | Coke++ | xt/pws/code.pws new word |
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| doc: c6d9e776ad | Coke++ | doc/Language/variables.pod6 unit requires standalone file for testing |
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| tbrowder | tonyo: on branch master i'm getting a failure with "zef test ." but branch github-workflows tests okay with same incantation | ||
| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/variables | ||
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| tonyo | tbrowder: you have a link to the repo you're in, or can you share the workflow yaml? | 17:13 | |
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| tbrowder | https:://github.com/tbrowder/text-csv-libcsv.git | 17:23 | |
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| tbrowder | i think the ".git" should not be used in this context | 17:25 | |
| arg: github.com/tbrowder/text-csv-libcsv | 17:26 | ||
| yepper, thas it | |||
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| ugexe | it should probably work with the .git, since thats the url github actually gives you for cloning | 18:45 | |
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