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disbot <simon_sibl> I just find Nim gives more control while Golang would be better for a team probably with better tooling but much less control 01:17
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disbot <simon_sibl> Well on guix it seems easier to use Go, so I’ll go with Go xD as middle level language 02:55
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leont Yeah that's what I dislike about Golang; it feels designed for teams where you don't actually trust your colleagues. Not saying they're necessarily wrong, but it's unfun. 12:04
disbot <antononcube> Very interesting!
<simon_sibl> I just made a silly program to test between Rust and Go, they are both very similar, but Raku is just 👌 chef kiss, really wish I could just compile it and ship it the way Zig/Go allow compiling for many targets 12:17
<simon_sibl> I mean, it doesnt get much simpler/straightforward than this: glot.io/snippets/hc20ob7zd0 12:19
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[Coke] hurm. getting issues installing various modules on windows. 13:25
File::Find:ver<0.2.4> died on windows 11 with rakubrew with raku/moar-2025.03 13:26
zef 1.0.0
"Failed to symlink file: operation not permitted" 13:27
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disbot9 <aruniecrisps> @SmokeMachine I got a question, how would I go about doing a GROUP BY using Red? 13:54
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leont simon_sibl: that does remind me though that Crypt::Argon2 is subtly broken and I need to get it fixed. It really really needs to take a Blob as its argument instead of a Str, otherwise encoding or normalization issues can cause false failures. 13:59
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[Coke] ah, File::Find broke in the latest version. 0.2.1 works on windows 14:05
SmokeMachine arumiecrisps: depending what you want, `.cassify` 14:06
disbot9 <aruniecrisps> Does classify actually translate into a GROUP BY clause in SQL or does it work with resultsets? 14:07
SmokeMachine example: usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/.../image.png 14:10
but there are plan to extend it... just NYI... usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/.../image.png 14:13
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SmokeMachine sorry, I meant this: usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/.../image.png 14:13
[Coke] .seen jonathanstowe 14:14
I have an open bug on META6 since February that still isn't fixed, which breaks anything that depends on this on windows. 14:15
also, the bots are gone again?
(trying to restart the bots) 14:16
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arkiuat yay bots 14:21
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[Coke] is there a way to get zef info to tell me all available versions, not just recommended/latest? 14:26
.seen jonathanstowe
tellable6 [Coke], I haven't seen jonathanstowe around
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tbrowder [Coke]: i see File-Find 2.4.1 passing all OS on the github source 14:29
[Coke] 2.4.1? Latest version is 0.2.4... 14:31
I opened a ticket on file find showing the error I'm seeing here on 0.2.4 14:32
github.com/raku-community-modules/.../issues/50
At least for that, I can temporarily use 0.2.1 - META6 there are no working versions on windows that I can find right now 14:33
and that bug has been open since February. :(
and fixed in a PR since May
arkiuat [Coke] you mean "zef search" ? 14:34
zef search File::Find # I think
[Coke] arkiuat: that's better, thanks! 14:35
(I'm search for META6 now, but yes, thanks)
arkiuat wow, that's a lot of versions of META6! 14:37
[Coke] Many of them are not actual meta6 but contain a meta6 14:39
Ugh. doesn't look like there is any version that passes tests on windows with latest raku, though. :(
arkiuat right, lots of fez in that listing 14:40
disbot9 <simon_sibl> I get random issue with the native library not being found sometimes, not sure why, I need to zef force install each time to fix this xD 14:43
<aruniecrisps> @SmokeMachine awesome thanks! I'll start playing around with it when I get home 14:55
ugexe [Coke]: you can do `zef search "File::Find:auth<zef:raku-community-modules>"` which is pretty close. the only difference would be `zef search` does a prefix match on the name so something like File::Find::FooBar:auth<zef:raku-community-modules> would also show up 14:58
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[Coke] tbrowder: can you point to the CI showing it's working on windows? 15:45
github.com/raku-community-modules/...1360371970 ? 15:46
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[Coke] That test is assuming that "symlink()" works. 15:49
disbot9 <cultoftheglenda> Attempting to start rakudo in a chroot jail on Ubuntu 24.04. I get this message. Not completely sure what it means # rakudo --version > ERROR: Could not retrieve executable path. 15:50
[Coke] tbrowder: added a note to issue#50 - the test needs to fail gracefully if one cannot symlink 15:56
er, NOT fail - it needs to gracefully handle it
patrickb cultoftheglenda: That's the source of the error. github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/c971...ain.c#L311 16:01
tellable6 patrickb, I'll pass your message to CultOfTheGlenda
patrickb MVM_exepath is based on libuv uv_exepath docs.libuv.org/en/v1.x/misc.html#c.uv_exepath 16:03
That seems to have issues in chroot.
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ugexe has anyone tried using claude code specifically to write or understand raku? 16:48
disbot9 <cultoftheglenda> Thanks, that was enough info to quickly diagnose it! 17:08
patrickb cultoftheglenda: Can you share your insights? I'd be interested. 17:18
tellable6 patrickb, I'll pass your message to CultOfTheGlenda
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disbot9 <cultoftheglenda> the /proc filesystem is not properly mounted. I have an overlayfs and both the lower and upper filesystem had a /proc and it was causing the procfs mount to fail in workdir of the overlayfs. 17:22
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patrickb Cool! Thanks for the info! 18:07
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