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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| xinming_ | m: [*] (2, 3, 4) | 11:25 | |
| camelia | Potential difficulties: Useless use of [*] in sink context at <tmp>:1 ------> <BOL>⏏[*] (2, 3, 4) |
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| xinming_ | m: [*](2, 3, 4) | ||
| camelia | Potential difficulties: Useless use of [*](2, in sink context at <tmp>:1 ------> <BOL>⏏[*](2, 3, 4) |
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| xinming_ | m: ([*](2, 3, 4)).say; | ||
| camelia | 24 | ||
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| xinming_ | ^^ Is there a function name for this? I know we have sum | 11:26 | |
| we have .sum already | |||
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| nemokosch | pretty sure if there was a name it would be product | 12:00 | |
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| and I see no such thing | 12:00 | ||
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| xinming_ | nemokosch: Thanks, Even there is no such thing, knowing the name for this operation is good enough for me. | 12:31 | |
| tellable6 | xinming_, I'll pass your message to Nemokosch | ||
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| guifa | is there a way in parameter type declarations to type the container of a @-sigiled var? | 13:49 | |
| e.g. sub foo (@bar is buf8) { … } ? | |||
| I know I can do where but feels clunky | 13:52 | ||
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| tbrowder__ | i would love it if some Windows expert would apply for a grant to beef up Raku github workflow testing on Windows. | 14:30 | |
| and i would contribute to it. | 14:31 | ||
| *for Windows | |||
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| ugexe | I did a proof of concept to make long paths work on windows at the raku core summit. Alas, doing it correctly proved to require far more work than I anticipated | 15:32 | |
| that was trying to do it entirely in rakudo though | 15:37 | ||
| doing it in MoarVM might be easier (contrary to what I originally thought). in all the places MoarVM does path operations it converts the string to some format, and on windows we could just add a new line under each of those instances that transforms the path as appropriate | 15:38 | ||
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| tbrowder__ | is that the main showstopper with Windows? | 20:11 | |
| and a ? on fez: is it possible to allow the user to see his password as he enters it% | 20:12 | ||
| ? | |||
| lizmat | ::q | 20:13 | |
| oops :-) | 20:14 | ||
| tbrowder__ | or have an option to do so? or at least see a single dot for each char entered? | ||
| seniors have a tuff time with unix-style passwords where nothing appears to be happeing. | 20:15 | ||
| and a pox on all those othe apps that are so secure the owner can't see the | 20:16 | ||
| one he enters | |||
| rant complete, sigh | 20:17 | ||
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| antononcube | @tbrowder I have been working today on templates for generation full-blown rants. You might find them helpful. | 20:53 | |
| @tbrowder I started doing that mostly because you seemed to like the 12 step list of quitting Python. | 20:54 | ||
| Here is an executed version of that template: github.com/antononcube/RakuForPred...e_woven.md | 20:57 | ||
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| tbrowder__ | i like it, but the ref to javascript to me seems to interrupt the stream | 21:52 | |
| gfldex | I *am* writing JavsScript today and I'm missing any form of comfort. | 21:54 | |
| tbrowder__ | .tell tonyo i tried to 'fez remove' a module i just released today and was told it didn't meet the 24 hr window!!! | ||
| tellable6 | tbrowder__, I'll pass your message to tonyo | ||
| tbrowder__ | sounds similar to python pain to me, but with less ws edges | 21:55 | |
| antononcube: i'll bet you could write a good technical summary of why python ppl should prefer raku. it would make a nice addition to raku.org | 21:58 | ||
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| antononcube | I will think about it. 🙂 | 22:17 | |
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| Voldenet | there's few reasons why choose python over raku as well though | 22:22 | |
| for example context managers | |||
| or __subclasshook__ | 22:29 | ||
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| antononcube | @Voldenet and @tbrowder I mostly writing Python trolling articles. So, using LLMs for that is just fine. | 23:00 | |
| Now, making something more constructive and useful in that way -- i.e. with LLMs and templates -- requires a fair amount of iterations and vetting. | 23:02 | ||
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| Voldenet | the results are promising though, keep up the good work :> | 23:07 | |
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| antononcube | My conniving plan is to show "the promising results" to Brian Duggan, so, he would get inspired to change Raku Jupyter-Kernel to accommodate easier and quicker access to LLMs. | 23:12 | |
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