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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
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JimmyZhuo patrickb: I usually use GCC 03:46
tellable6 2025-03-16T21:50:32Z #raku <patrickb> JimmyZhuo: Do you deliberately use gmake/GCC? There are some only msvc bits in that PR (reason being that it needs to work on the JVM backend as well, where there is no CC variable defined.)
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patrickb JimmyZhuo: Ok. Then I understand why you had so much trouble. As not all back ends use a C toolchain and provide respective $CC, ... make variables 07:55
tellable6 patrickb, I'll pass your message to JimmyZhuo
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patrickb I resorted to using a hard coded msvc compiler call. Assuming that's the only toolchain used / supported on Windows. I have obviously been wrong. 07:56
It's still a bit of an open question how to solve this. I could add three hard coded compiler commands, one each for cl, GCC and clang and then try to somehow detect which one best to use... 07:58
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librasteve_ SmokeMachine: I got this error with `zef install Red` on vanilla ubuntu … looking at raku.land, seems that this module is only on p5c … is it still a Red dependency? www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jYXI0ij0 15:59
if still needed then maybe should be adopted as a raku community module? 16:00
SmokeMachine Red shoudn't depend on that... odd... 16:01
github.com/FCO/Red/blob/master/META6.json 16:02
librasteve_ guess it comes in via NativeLibs www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9f0lXZIT 16:03
SmokeMachine I don't remember Red ever depended on that... (but we can't ever trust my memory...)
librasteve_ comes in with DBIish raku.land/zef:raku-community-modules/DBIish 16:04
wich is already a community module
i’ll raise an issue 16:05
SmokeMachine www.irccloud.com/pastebin/B2Samqxa/
thanks, but that's odd... I never had that problem, and I just installed Red recently several times... 16:06
librasteve_ maybe you are on an older raku - this with 2024.10 … I think the fail is caused by the .pm file extension eprecation error 16:07
github.com/raku-community-modules/...issues/241 16:09
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SmokeMachine www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DMWbVOUo/ 16:20
Red has no PM files anymore... is it trying to install an old version of Red? 16:21
Could you try installing `Red:api<2>`? 16:22
or `Red:ver<0.1.75>` 16:24
melezhik. . 16:51
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librasteve Red installs DBIish as a dep then that installs NativeHelpers::Blob as a dep ... so maybe you did not need to reinstall NativeHelpers.Blob for a long time since it hasn't changed 17:16
I hit it because I'm doing a new install on a clean machine
SmokeMachine I keep updating Raku with rakubrew and it makes it required to install everything again, so I don’t think that’s the case… 17:19
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Mrtophat wsp 17:36
[Coke] www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6FsyQZzJJ0 - added a comment about how this does work in Raku (I didn't watch the whole thing, only the first 60s or so) 17:54
librasteve smokemachine: good point - I have no idea why it doesn't error on your machine 17:56
[Coke] librasteve_: are you having trouble with the latest released version or HEAD?
(of Rakudo)
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librasteve I have been testing on 2024.10 17:57
its an easy workaround just use --/test ... but since DBIish (community module) depends on NativeLibs::Blob (not community module on p6c) then we should move it to community I guess 17:59
(and then we can change to .pm to .rakumod)
/NativeLibs::Blob/NativeHelpers::Blob/ 18:00
[Coke] that deprecation warning shouldn't cause a failure, though, should it? 18:03
SmokeMachine But even on p6c, it should work with lizmat’s ecosystem (sorry, I forgot the name) 18:06
librasteve [Coke] - maybe not - suggest you cast your eye over the error message in the issue, maybe I am incorect about the cause 18:22
ugexe the failure is the first line of the test output 18:23
[NativeHelpers::Blob] /bin/sh: 1: gcc: not found
librasteve oh yes
[Coke] ugexe: yes - the discussion before was just about the deprecation. thanks. :) 18:24
librasteve well, I am using AWS vanilla ubuntu 24.04LTS for this ... guesss that comes with no gcc 18:25
ubuntu@ip-172-31-4-0:~$ which gcc /usr/bin/gcc
wrong again 18:26
there is gcc on the box
ugexe i would suggesting poking at github.com/salortiz/NativeHelpers-....pm#L5-L30 18:28
on whatever system is giving you this issue
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lizmat and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2025/03/17/2025-...-for-sale/ 19:45
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melezhik. lizmat: thanks for mentioning my HN post on this RW. Could you also please correct the link to it ? Should be news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43355120 , thanks 🙏 21:17
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tbrowder [Coke]: i think i should i file an issue on the roll issue, yes? 21:55
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lizmat melezhik oops, corrected 23:16
thanks for the headsup
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