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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
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Voldenet timo: I'll attempt snapshotting and see if things even start properly and if I manage to use it, I'll see if performance winnings are worth the effort 02:06
I'm not overly optimistic, but from what I've seen in the past, I think it might save around 30% of start time… but it might also not work properly thanks to libuv's event loop 02:13
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timo yeah we will most likely need to put some changes into moar itself, a bit like when brrt built support for fork into it 10:32
and a spot inside nqp's HLL::Compiler or HLL::Backend where the freezing should happen 10:34
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coranila m: my $s = start { quietly try die }; $s.scheduler.uncaught_handler.^methods>>.grep({ $^a.raku ~~ m/service/ }).flat # where's' the magic..? 12:51
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coranila aha! that changed between 2025.03 and HEAD as well, I am once again behind! 12:52
proves that i'm misusing rakubrew i think .. 12:53
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antononcube @patrickb I kind of working on a "rant finder" for the IRC logs. I wanted to make work over LLaMA models using RAG (retrieval augmented generation). Turned out that the newest LLaMA models changed their API (slightly, but previous workflows break.) 13:10
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[Coke] misusing rakubrew how? 14:17
coranila Coke: oh, how to switch between version, how the choice between shim and env mode influences that, and how my environment in turn influences my choice between the two modes! 14:44
like, all of those conspire to make it non-obvious to figure out what I even want to do in the first place
I did end up going with ./Configure.pl and a prefix and running zef manually for now 14:45
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[Coke] rakubrew is great if you're doing a lot of switching *back* to versions you've already built once - if you're always updating forward, manual builds are fine. (but rakubrew can help automate that also) 14:46
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[Coke] I use rakubrew to mainly stay on a "release", but then for testing might do a build of HEAD and then switch back when done 14:47
(and being able to *download* a release instead of building is also sweet)
coranila Right! But it also is "learning a tool" when I'm trying to solve a problem right now; I'm not gonna abandon it complete, just side-step it for now. :-) 14:48
[Coke] cool
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vasko @librasteve I've just discovered the Air/hArc stack and it's so cool! It's like so much more advanced than anything else I've seen language integration wise. 17:41
antononcube Vasko Da Gama? 18:16
Васко Да Гама, сиреч. 18:17
vasko I'm afraid I'm not the famous explorer, and yes Васко is correct :D 18:26
librasteve vasko: thanks for the feedback … i’m almost done with Air::Form, then I need to make a couple of live sites. feel free to request / suggest stuff … but bear in mind a PR is the surest way to get what you want! 18:55
vasko Ah so that's I'm getting `Could not find Air::Form` on `zef install .` on the `Air-Play` repo :) 18:58
antononcube <vasko> Here is the reference I had in mind: bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/Васко_да_Гам...село_Рупча . Bulgarians of a certain generation would know it. 🙂 19:30
vasko antoncube: Was disappointed this famous movie wasn't on any topsites. Ironically it comes up on youtube! 19:49
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antononcube I will put it in my queue. 🙂 20:05
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