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| wayland76 | aruniecrisps: That might be it. Not 100% sure, but it's likely. | 02:03 | |
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| wayland76 | OK, I've done a bit more debugging, and it seems that, in Slangify, inside the "sub EXPORT", the "my sub EXPORT" inside the "sub EXPORT" isn't getting triggered. Any ideas why that might be happening? | 02:39 | |
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| wayland76 | (If it helps, I'm on RakuAST now). | 03:28 | |
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| disbot8 | <simon_sibl> is it me or Rakudo™ Star v2025.12 seems to be twice as fast to start ? | 07:42 | |
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| disbot8 | <antononcube> That can be measured and compared. | 08:48 | |
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| wayland76 | SmokeMachine: The part you were complaining about looked to me like it was charging for use of a certification mark (which would presumably be done by someone?), and not for the SBOM code. I don't have a reference for the original, so I'm not sure, but that was my reading of that. | 09:32 | |
| (ie. I may be missing context) | |||
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| disbot8 | <librasteve> here's the thread - github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/507 - the certificatio idea is a very tenuous pipe dream / fantasy anyway | 10:01 | |
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| disbot8 | <librasteve> @simon_sibl raku -e 'say 42' 0.10s user 0.02s system 103% cpu 0.121 total | 10:11 | |
| wayland76 | librasteve_: Thanks! :) | 10:20 | |
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| Geth | raku.org: librasteve++ created pull request #286: Revert xmas logo, fix several issues with Air:ver<0.1.3> |
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| librasteve_ | notable6: weekly | 14:51 | |
| notable6 | librasteve_, 3 notes: gist.github.com/0678c1d9be378bc99e...c850ec17f6 | ||
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| librasteve_ | notable6: weekly reset | 15:09 | |
| notable6 | librasteve_, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2026-01-05T15:09:18Z” | ||
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| librasteve_ | rakudoweekly.blog/2026/01/05/2026-...happy-new/ | 15:28 | |
| disbot8 | <antononcube> @librasteve Not that important, but "Graph::RandomMaze" is a new package/module, that it wasn't mentioned in the weekly post. | 15:36 | |
| <antononcube> raku.land/zef:antononcube/Graph::RandomMaze | |||
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| disbot8 | <librasteve> it was covered in the previous issue rakudoweekly.blog/2025/12/29/2025-...the-onion/ - on raku.land/recent shows as 8 days old ;-) | 16:35 | |
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| tbrowder | nice weekly. problem with Spreadsheet::Read (and simlar packages) are the CPAN dependencies. hopefully David Warring can get his LibXML package working before long because i like @jonathan's interface. | 16:39 | |
| disbot8 | <antononcube> @librasteve Sorry, I forgot or did not notice... | ||
| <librasteve> no worries | 16:41 | ||
| Voldenet | Spreadsheet::Read is very niche, it's very easy to export xml data to csv and then it becomes trivial to process | 16:42 | |
| erm, xlsx | 16:43 | ||
| converting is what I do when I get xls files - I can validate the data visually (using libreoffice) | 16:44 | ||
| tbrowder | yes, but i do like being able to use raw .xlxs format because it is often more complex than pure csv and banks and other financial houses use it extensively. | ||
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> @librasteve this is just my humble opinion, but I think the most crucial thing for engaging the next 1000 Raku programmers would be having stuff like a static analyzer and LSP and treesitter grammar | 16:45 | |
| tbrowder | Voldenet you should look at SoftMaker's free xlsx tool. mostly like Excel on Linux and MacOS. much better that LibeOffice imho | 16:47 | |
| *than | |||
| *LibreOffice | 16:48 | ||
| Voldenet | but it's totally not free, it's half the price excel is | 16:51 | |
| librasteve_ | Voldenet: happy to share better Tips n Tricks … just put them in a gist and share to weekly here (my MO is to just squirrel away and regurgitate snippets that catch my eye and I think are cool uses of Raku … not much goes on by way of QA … sorry) | ||
| Voldenet | I'm not hating on the tip though, it's useful for people who use excel more perhaps | ||
| disbot8 | <librasteve> should have mentioned my own raku.land/zef:librasteve/Net::Google::Sheets humble efforts | 16:53 | |
| librasteve_ | weekly: raku.land/zef:librasteve/Net::Google::Sheets | ||
| notable6 | librasteve_, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> i think the biggest pain point i've had in trying to use Raku in some production settings is the feeling of shooting in the dark w/o something to tell me i'm doing something wrong | 16:54 | |
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| librasteve_ | arun: thanks for the feedback … I’m going to say that we will need to disagree agreeably on this one … why? well I see the Raku community as a pretty stable dynamic equilibrium of new recruits, folks who hang out and folks that drift away … getting the next 1000 is about new recruits - a small slice of the 40 million devs who work in JS, PHP, Python, etc who we we can entice to try our stuff … | 16:59 | |
| … the stuff you mention, IS covered in Crossing the Chasm as “whole product” and I think that the lack of the stuff speeds up the departure of folks after they have given it a fair try …. so there is an effect, but it is second order … | 17:01 | ||
| … personally I use IntelliJ & RIP and I do not miss these things, there are also tools for VSCode, vi, emacs and so on that I haven’t tried … my preference would be for back end / tools oriented contributors to just get RakuAST done before moving to plug these gaps | 17:03 | ||
| that said, suggest you open a n | 17:04 | ||
| ew problem solving issue and see if there is some wider recognition for these … | |||
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| tbrowder | yeah, i forgetbut for we folks who are linux only it's a game changer | 17:17 | |
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| tbrowder | *forgot about the small fee | 17:17 | |
| um, maybe their "freeoffice" is the version i keep confusing with the non-free version | 17:25 | ||
| i didn't go with that because of some use restrictions | |||
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| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> @timo I found the docs on continuations, looks like they're partial continuations according to the docs not one shot continuations | 17:45 | |
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| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> github.com/Raku/nqp/blob/main/docs...ations.pod | 18:31 | |
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| timo | @aruniecrisps be careful it looks like that was initially written for the JVM implementation and may not have been updated sufficiently for what exactly moarvm covers | 20:32 | |
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> right, i see that, i guess there's only one way to find out if this works | 21:06 | |
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| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> timo: it looks like you're right: glot.io/snippets/hekufthquh | 21:26 | |
| <aruniecrisps> actually no i'm probably not doing this right | 21:28 | ||
| timo | i think you will have to do the same contortions that rakudo internals do to use these ops to get the code handle out of the high-level code object | 21:29 | |
| well, contortion is a bit much for writing the nqp::getattr to get at the internal attribute | |||
| in the code you passed it's actually getting a Scalar, not even the function | 21:33 | ||
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> are you talking about the nqp::continuation calls or the stuff at the bottom? | ||
| timo | `continuationreset(nqp::null(), $f<>)` will get a Block object to the continuationreset op instead of a Scalar, but you still need to grab the $!do attribute for it to not complain about not getting a continuation or code handle | 21:35 | |
| `nqp::continuationreset(nqp::null(), nqp::getattr($f<>, Code, Q[$!do]));` and running the code outputs "hello" | 21:36 | ||
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> yea, i made the change and it works | 21:39 | |
| <aruniecrisps> i'm wondering what i should do for continuationcontrol in order to get it working as well | 21:40 | ||
| <aruniecrisps> glot.io/snippets/hekuufpldu | |||
| <aruniecrisps> i can see why this probably doesn't belong on the raku documentation website haha | 21:42 | ||
| timo | same thing, but no need to <> anything since there is no variable involved | ||
| the -> $foo {bla bla} goes where the $f would have gone in the nqp::getattr | |||
| disbot8 | <aruniecrisps> interesting, thanks for the help! | 21:45 | |
| timo | no problem | ||
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