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aruniecrisps A couple of other things I'm doing while I procrastinate on working on the actual side project using Raku: i forked shiki's tmgrammars so I could update the Raku textmate grammar: github.com/arunvickram/textmate-grammars-themes 00:59
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Geth raku.org: jubilatious1++ created pull request #272:
Simplify "radius" OOP example		 07:27
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ab5tract aruniecrisps: wow! I think a lot of IDEs use these, right? 08:30
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simon_sibl not sure why it works with | but not with ||, I need it to follow the order I put them otherwise it breaks (it always goes for call instead of loop or other stuff) 11:22
glot.io/snippets/hcz1ty347p
(I know its very likely ugly to add the logic in the grammar but whatever, its just a test xD) 11:23
omg I figured it out, its exactly about the order, just had to swap statement and code in the TOP rule 11:26
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although the call is still "eating" the other ones before for some reason 11:29
when using token statement { \s* [ <comment> || <loop> || <assignement> || <call> ] }
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timo you're using "token", maybe the lack of backtracking is causing unexpected non-matches? 11:37
(also, be aware that glot.io runs rakudo 2024.01) 11:39
simon_sibl it seems to be about backtracking, but I dont understand why it would need that 11:40
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when I use regex for loop and statement it all work as expected 11:40
but using rule for both, and removing call in statement, it works
why adding call at the end breaks the loop, its before call with the || so it shouldnt matter ? 11:41
ooooh
wait no
yeah idk xD
how could I tell the parser stop searching after finding the first match in a || list ? 11:43
timo i think \s and \n both match newlines, so \s* \n will always need to backtrack 11:44
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timo .o( this could be a thing we can statically determine and warn about, actually ) 11:45
simon_sibl hmmm 11:49
I guess the loop one is causing me trouble
maybe because of the backtrack you're telling me about
timo oh, i read the code backwards, you actually have \n* \s* 11:50
simon_sibl its probably because I am not supposed to do that but 11:51
glot.io/snippets/hcz2luedap
here for example, it clearly identifies the loop
but it still runs the call code at the end of the match, and thats what I want to avoid
timo do you know about Grammar::Tracer? 11:52
simon_sibl I do not 11:53
let me check
timo right, "end" is both a syntactically valid call, but you really want it to match for the end of the loop instead 11:54
simon_sibl yes exactly 11:55
or I could add some code in the grammar if thats possible that only allow to call/match currently defined functions from %FNS ?
timo you can put a negative lookahead in front of the <statement> like [<!before 'end'> <statement>]* 'end' 11:56
yeah for example <?{ %FNS{$<fn>}:exists }> 11:57
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simon_sibl it is indeed much better, those two addons, amazing 11:58
thank you so much !
while I understand the first one, not totally sure to understand the second one 12:00
wouldnt it replace the result by True or False ?
and try to match True/False ?
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timo i think that's what <{ ... }> does, not <?{ ... }> 12:05
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antononcube @simon_sibl "Grammar::Tracer" is often useful, but, also often, not so much. It is mostly useful for finding hard to spot errors in LLM-generated grammars. (For me.) 13:33
(Which brings an interesting application of "Agentic-AI" use...) 13:34
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.seen librasteve 14:04
tellable6 antononcube, gist.github.com/1799df8a45bf3bb30f...195bcbef19
librasteve o/ 14:07
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for any folks interested in contributing to the forthcoming London Perl and Raku Workshop (29th Nov), there is a call for talks at www.londonperlworkshop.com/talks 14:29
weekly: www.londonperlworkshop.com/talks
notable6 librasteve, Noted! (weekly)
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antononcube @librasteve I think submitting articles for Advent calendar is done by making PRs to Advent's repository, right? 14:35
librasteve yes
antononcube Also, what is the limit of the number per articles author? (Five?)
librasteve well ... PR in author name and title, then follow the CONTRUBTING.md
the limit is 23 14:36
since I have reserved the 24 for lizmat annual summary
lizmat librasteve++
antononcube Agh, yes -- I could not remember where I read the submission rules. (I.e. in CONTRIBUTING.md.) 14:37
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librasteve hopefully we will get a good mix of articles - 5 is probably at the top end since we will likely favour more authors than fewer 14:38
antononcube I was mostly joking with 5. I think have 6-7 Raku articles/posts written at different levels of completion. But for the Advent I would most likely submit 2. 14:40
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librasteve that would be cool! maybe keep one in reserve in case the well runs dry on the 22nd, please ;-) 14:46
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aruniecrisps @ab5tract Not just IDEs, some code highlighters also use this 15:49
the tmlanguge format I mean 15:50
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melezhik This indigodday guy Oscars 19:27
Sorry for the typo , hit the button too really in my phone
This indigodaddy user occasionally throws some open source projects to HN, and I was surprised to see two of my projects here in his recent HN posts - Sparrow and Sparrow. Maybe this is a bot, I dunno , but still cool I think - news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=indigodaddy 19:30
Look like is human being , not a bot , makes some comments as well - news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=indigodaddy 19:31
Oh maybe 🤔 is one of ours ? Don’t recall this name though here 19:32
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