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🦋 Welcome to the former MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel has moved to Libera (irc.libera.chat #raku) Set by lizmat on 23 May 2021. |
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| guifa | lizmat: if I did some Date[Time].fmt work should I stub it in Datish and implement separately for the two? Or just implement in Datish and have it bomb if unavailable atributes (like hours/minutes) are in the format string (or use default values of 0)? | 03:46 | |
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| lizmat | guifa: I'd use default values of 0 and always use accessors in the code, so that subclasses would have a possibility to intervene | 09:41 | |
| tellable6 | lizmat, I'll pass your message to guifa | ||
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| Altreus | I like that bot feature | 09:59 | |
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| lizmat | weekly: propuestas.eslib.re/2021/salas/raku-and-friends | 12:46 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| MasterDuke | anybody here know how to use windbg's time traveling debugger with rakudo? | 12:52 | |
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| El_Che | jjmerelo is a bag of vitamine C (and I suppose amphetamines): so much energy! | 13:12 | |
| (no fan of the perl+raku sister thing in 2021, though) | 13:13 | ||
| Altreus | I believe that should say "whippupitude" not "whippipitude" | 13:14 | |
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| Juerd | whipituptitude (whip-it-up) | 13:23 | |
| Oh, more results for whipuptitude without "it" than for whipuptitude with "it" | 13:24 | ||
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| xinming | Hi, I always get confused about .hyper/.race, which one ensures order of results, the other doesn't, Any hints on how I can remember this? Thx | 14:37 | |
| I've looked-up the raku doc over and over again :-( | |||
| dakkar | xinming: in a `.race`, you never know who's goinig to arrive first | 14:38 | |
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| dakkar | xinming: does that help? | 14:40 | |
| xinming | dakkar: got it, thx | 14:42 | |
| this helped a lot. | |||
| dakkar | maybe docs.raku.org/type/Iterable#method_race should say that… | ||
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| xinming | It's quite a bit like in school, I always get confused with am/pm before, But teacher told us remember that letter a is before p, so we'll know which is mornining. :-) | 14:43 | |
| dakkar | I think it's one of those things that are "obvious" to (near) native English speaker | ||
| xinming: and the am/pm is clearer to Latin speakers 😜 | 14:44 | ||
| (am | |||
| (am → ante meridiem → before mid-day; pm → post meridiem → after mid-day) | |||
| xinming | Ok, I just get curious about what am/pm mean in google, and your answer showed. | 14:45 | |
| google's AI is amazing. :-) | |||
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| Juerd | By convention, the meridiem itself is pm :) | 15:13 | |
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| RandalSchwartz | sounds like a fairly boring convention… no parties at night? | 15:15 | |
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| tonyo | isn't the meridiem the fine line between being ante and post? | 15:31 | |
| RandalSchwartz | "there's a fine line between ante and post, son. Be sure to observe it!" | 15:33 | |
| tonyo | sit in this nice char i've made | 15:34 | |
| RandalSchwartz | is it an emoji? | ||
| tonyo | 'tisn't | 15:35 | |
| RandalSchwartz | all the cool kids have emoji chars! | ||
| tonyo | i'm sure there's one somewhere | ||
| 💺 | 15:36 | ||
| lizmat | 🍺! | ||
| m: dd "💺".uninames | |||
| camelia | ("SEAT",).Seq | ||
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| suman | How to do this in raku? stackoverflow.com/questions/346214...-two-lists | 15:43 | |
| I was expecting similar in raku. m: my @set1 = set(1..4); my @set2= set(3..6); say @set1-@set2 | 15:44 | ||
| m: my @set1 = set(1..4); my @set2= set(3..6); say @set1-@set2 | |||
| camelia | 0 | ||
| lizmat | m: dd <a b c d> (-) <b d> | 15:45 | |
| camelia | Set.new("a","c") | ||
| lizmat | suman ^^ ? | ||
| m: dd <a b c d> (^) <b d> # symmetric version | 15:46 | ||
| camelia | Set.new("c","a") | ||
| lizmat | m: dd <b d> (-) <a b c d> # non symmetric | ||
| camelia | Set.new() | ||
| lizmat | m: dd <b d> (^) <a b c d> # non symmetric | ||
| camelia | Set.new("a","c") | ||
| lizmat | *symmetric :-) | ||
| suman | lizmat Got it. Thanks | 15:47 | |
| lizmat | you don't need to coerce to Sets to get Set semantics :-) | ||
| you *will* get a Set as the result (unless the set op returns a Bool, such as (elem)) | |||
| m: say "a" (elem) <a b c d> | 15:48 | ||
| camelia | True | ||
| lizmat | m: say "e" (elem) <a b c d> | ||
| camelia | False | ||
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| melezhik | .tell @uzluisf I probably found a bug in Colorizable - gist.github.com/melezhik/a30567984...83fdc224c9 , hope it helps. regards | 16:02 | |
| tellable6 | melezhik, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/Raku/whateverable/wiki/Tellable | ||
| melezhik | .tell uzluisf I probably found a bug in Colorizable - gist.github.com/melezhik/a30567984...83fdc224c9 , hope it helps. regards | ||
| tellable6 | melezhik, I haven't seen uzluisf around, did you mean Ovidius? | ||
| lizmat | melezhik o/ long time no see! | 16:05 | |
| melezhik | yeah, 0/ | ||
| I know, I know ))) | |||
| cnx | hi all, what do you think of hosting the upcoming raku conf on a more libre platform like bigbluebutton or jitsi instead of zoom? | 16:06 | |
| is there any technical hindrence to preferring zoom, e.g. sponsorship or it was just not thought after? | 16:07 | ||
| melezhik | I've created an issue in Colorrzable gitlab repo - gitlab.com/uzluisf/raku-colorized/-/issues/3 | 16:11 | |
| lizmat: always my pleasure to talk to Raku people ))) | 16:12 | ||
| lizmat | cnx: please talk to the organizer Andrew Shitov | 16:13 | |
| melezhik: always good to see you around! | 16:14 | ||
| Geth | doc: dakkar++ created pull request #3897: add a mnemonic for `Iterable.race` |
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| cnx | lizmat, i've just emailed the official contact, i'd love to know how others think about it as well | 16:15 | |
| melezhik | yeah, I slowdown my opensource activities recently, but Raku is always on my radar and congratulations with a new irc host ! | ||
| lizmat | fwiw, I'm not in favour of Zoom either | 16:16 | |
| cnx | huh the raku community is small enough that I think i remember all of your faces from last fosdem d-; | ||
| lizmat | melezhik: thank you .... hope you'll be able to become more active again soon | ||
| they're plenty of Raku people who've never been to FOSDEM :-) | 16:17 | ||
| cnx is excited for trc | |||
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| xinming | How do we get the version info of the installed module? | 16:26 | |
| Let's say, how do we check which DBIish version we are installed? | |||
| melezhik | zef info <module-name> | 16:28 | |
| xinming | thx | ||
| melezhik | welcome | ||
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| Geth | doc: 0ba6d45fcb | (Gianni Ceccarelli)++ (committed by Juan Julián Merelo Guervós) | doc/Type/Iterable.pod6 add a mnemonic for `Iterable.race` From IRC: Jun 14 15:37:13 <xinming>Hi, I always get confused about .hyper/.race, which one ensures order of results, the other doesn't, Any hints on how I can remember this? Thx Jun 14 15:37:32 <xinming>I've looked-up the raku doc over and over again :-( Jun 14 15:38:09 <dakkar>xinming: in a `.race`, you never know who's goinig to arrive first Jun 14 15:40:00 <dakkar>xinming: does that help? Jun 14 15:42:26 <xinming>dakkar: got it, thx Jun 14 15:42:38 <xinming>this helped a lot. Jun 14 15:42:48 <dakkar>maybe docs.raku.org/type/Iterable#method_race should say that… |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/type/Iterable | ||
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| lizmat | and another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2021/06/14/2021-24-missing/ | 18:05 | |
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| gfldex | lolibloggedalittle: gfldex.wordpress.com/2021/06/14/ma...g-nothing/ | 18:41 | |
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| guifa | o/ | 19:05 | |
| tellable6 | 2021-06-14T09:41:27Z #raku <lizmat> guifa: I'd use default values of 0 and always use accessors in the code, so that subclasses would have a possibility to intervene | ||
| guifa | lizmat++ | ||
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| Geth | doc/real-coercers: 409bc005ed | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Real.pod6 Avoid repetitions |
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| Geth | doc/master: 7 commits pushed by (Tom Browder)++ | 20:21 | |
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| Geth | doc: rakool++ created pull request #3898: Update regexes.pod6 |
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