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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). This channel is logged for the purpose of keeping a history about its development | evalbot usage: 'm: say 3;' or /msg camelia m: ... | Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| Anton Antonov | @japhb Mmm... unfortunately Raku CBOR is still slow compared to Python (≈ 40 time slower.) | 00:08 | |
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| @japhb Of course, thanks working on "CBOR::Simple" ! And thanks again for bringing my attention to it! | 00:09 | ||
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| japhb | Anton Antonov: Not terribly surprised, especially if you were unable to use packed array types. CBOR::Simple is (I believe) the fastest structured data codec in Raku-land ... but that doesn't make its JSON-like data as fast as tuned Python code. OTOH, it *might* have better fidelity -- Raku has a richer builtin type library than most languages, thus being able to round trip Rat and Capture and such. | 00:59 | |
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| Anton Antonov | @japhb Mmm... unfortunately Raku CBOR is still slow compared to Python (≈ 40 times slower.) | 09:05 | |
| @japhb Of course, thanks for working on "CBOR::Simple" ! And thanks again for bringing my attention to it! | 09:06 | ||
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| Voldenet | python will be unbeatable here, because cbor2 uses raw C for reading cbor lengths | 09:33 | |
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| lizmat | *phew* fixed irclogs.raku.org wrt changed format in discord bridge messages | 10:50 | |
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| pmurias | hi! | 11:27 | |
| tellable6 | 2020-08-20T06:44:00Z #raku-dev <patrickb> .tell pmurias If you find the time I'd value your insights on github.com/Raku/nqp/issues/656 | ||
| 2020-10-27T01:48:00Z #raku-dev <[Coke]> .tell pmurias there are some js specific opcodes at gist.github.com/coke/f87ab505c6cb8...b5cb6a8990 like "attrhintfor" that could use some docs. | |||
| 2020-10-27T01:52:00Z #raku-dev <[Coke]> .tell pmurias I mean like asyncreadbyte | |||
| pmurias | anything cool has been recently happening in raku land? | 11:29 | |
| lizmat | pmurias: if the tellable6 response is any indication, you missed the new coerce protocol, the work on RakuAST and the IRC logs server irclogs.raku.org | 11:30 | |
| pmurias: good to see you, hope you are well! | |||
| AlexDaniel | probably wasn't that long, it's just that tellable still has some messages it's unsure about if it delivered them | 11:31 | |
| pmurias | lizmat: nice to see you too, hope you are doing well too | 11:33 | |
| lizmat | as well as I can, without current parameters :-) | ||
| AlexDaniel | lizmat: oooooo, irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html is faaaancy | 11:34 | |
| really cool | |||
| lizmat | thank you :-) | ||
| AlexDaniel | and the search function works! 😌 | 11:36 | |
| that's all I could possible wish for wrt irc logs | |||
| ok maybe one more thing is search across multiple channels | |||
| lizmat | yeah... that's tricky... you just have to change channel to repeat the same search though | 11:37 | |
| you would need a whole new display mechanism to show results from different channels.... and scrolling would be hell to implement | 11:38 | ||
| AlexDaniel | aaa yeah indeed | ||
| are you taking feature requests? :) | 11:39 | ||
| lizmat | github.com/lizmat/App-Raku-Log/issues | ||
| I also take PR's :-) | |||
| pmurias | myself I'm going doing fairly ok now, worked for google for 2+ years, now checking up on old stuff now that I have more free time | 11:43 | |
| lizmat | ++pmurias | ||
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| Anton Antonov | @Voldenet Thank you for clarifying that Python's cbor2 uses raw C. | 12:25 | |
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| lizmat | ok, irclogs.raku.org updated, now running on rakudo blead | 12:38 | |
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| nine | Nice to read that pmurias++ is doing ok :) | 14:47 | |
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| [Coke] | What's the latest tech for releasing a module? | 15:18 | |
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| Nemokosch | raku.org/resources/ could you please update the glot.io link to "raku" instead of "perl6"? | 15:52 | |
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| guifa | [Coke] fez | 15:54 | |
| guifa . o O ( someone didn't watch my talk hahahhahahhaha ) | 15:55 | ||
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| japhb wonders if pmurias is another Xoogler like himself | 16:24 | ||
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| jaguart | guifa: Do you have a link to your talk? | 16:32 | |
| guifa | jaguart: www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eDeSRZ6p8 | 16:33 | |
| I mainly talk about fez towards the end | 16:36 | ||
| jaguart | thanks :) | ||
| guifa | I haven't rewatched it though. Hate listening to myself talk haha | 16:38 | |
| Nemokosch | It was good | 16:46 | |
| ugexe | lgtm | ||
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| ugexe | not sure if its worth mentioning, but one of the reasons the file names get mangled is so that files can be referenced by their case-sensitive name even on case-insensitive file systems | 16:52 | |
| guifa | and probably also makes life easy if names are non-ASCII too | ||
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| tonyo | guifa: a note on the checkbuild - it'll prompt and ask if you'd like to continue anyway | 17:57 | |
| it being fez | 17:58 | ||
| Anton Antonov | @guifa I am watching the linked talk now (and, yes, somehow I missed it...) | 18:04 | |
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| p6steve | i've put CBOR2 on the most wanted list (maybe we need to use C too) | 18:24 | |
| japhb: github.com/japhb/perl6-most-wanted/pull/3 | 18:29 | ||
| Anton Antonov | <@928301352029937715> I could not login to the lightsail notebook you provied. | 18:33 | |
| <@928301352029937715> I could not login to the lightsail notebook you provided. | 18:34 | ||
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| [Coke] | is www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2eDeSRZ6p8 choppy for anyone else or just me? | 18:57 | |
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| lizmat | not for me | 18:59 | |
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| japhb | p6steve: I'm no longer the upstream for perl6-most-wanted. That was (long ago) handed off to the community-shared repos. :-) | 19:05 | |
| (GitHub wants to rather hilariously merge almost 300 commits from ~8 years ago.) | 19:06 | ||
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| Anton Antonov | @Coke not for me | 19:22 | |
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| [Coke] | fez's checkbuild doesn't care if 'zef test .' would fail. | 19:35 | |
| ok, I think I uploaded a dist, whee. Should see about moving the old ones I had. | 19:39 | ||
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| guifa | tonyo: noted. I'm probably going to look at reworking the talk into a written guide somewhere | 20:30 | |
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| p6steve | anton: sorry --- I have just relaunched and checked login | 20:58 | |
| anton: right now this is more of a sandbox ... but I would really like any f/back if you have time to play | 20:59 | ||
| anton: url is: container-service-1.gs7k0bfrb4gvk....tsail.com/ | |||
| anton: token is: 76d4187c69b2ab498c29fbc6574d76c6c1edde4b3007cdc3 | 21:00 | ||
| anton: workbooks are in /eg | |||
| [Coke] | ah, and now that I'm looking at the readme for this module on the site, I see like 8 things I had meant to change first. :) | 21:01 | |
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| p6steve | japhb: thanks ... I have reforked and PRed | 21:08 | |
| japhb | Thanks! | 21:16 | |
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| pmurias | japhb: re ex-googler, yes | 21:25 | |
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| Anton Antonov | <@928301352029937715> I got in! 🙂 | 21:35 | |
| <@928301352029937715> Should I try to install some of my DSL modules? Ideally this weekend I will make them translate to Dan... | 21:39 | ||
| <@928301352029937715> Well, maybe not -- it seems you actively working on that playground! | |||
| p6steve | anton: yay! (i) do what you want, I can always rebuild, (ii) the index ipynb already use Data::Generators, Data::Reloaders (feel free to load more via console), (iii) on Dan feel free to do a PR | 21:58 | |
| Anton Antonov | <@928301352029937715> Thanks. In the last 15 min the Raku-kernel constantly restarts. I could not do anything. | 22:00 | |
| I get these messages: "Kernel Restarting : The kernel for raku-Dan-Jupyter/eg/DD-raku-dan-pandas.ipynb appears to have died. It will restart automatically." | 22:01 | ||
| p6steve | all: if you would like to play just follow github.com/p6steve/raku-Dan-Jupyter readme (AWS lightsail account needed - there's a free version for limited time) | ||
| committable6 | p6steve, gist.github.com/b0e4997e0c612acd05...4188966921 | ||
| p6steve | commitable6: huh? | 22:20 | |
| committable6 | p6steve, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/Raku/whateverable/wiki/Committable | ||
| AlexDaniel | all: say 42 | 22:21 | |
| committable6 | AlexDaniel, gist.github.com/5205ed610808bed7a1...e585a9fc63 | ||
| p6steve | oh... | ||
| AlexDaniel | p6steve: yeah sry, maybe it should not be a command, I think once every few months people accidentally trigger it :) | 22:22 | |
| p6steve | the robots are taking over | ||
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| AlexDaniel | it's interesting though that it can run code on 2014.01… time flies | 22:23 | |
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