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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| nemokosch | I drafted the presentation(s) intended for the conference | 13:15 | |
| feels like a lot of material xd | |||
| lizmat | nemokosch today is the last day for submissions! | 13:31 | |
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| nemokosch | mehh | 14:36 | |
| why would you add the first date after, rather than the last date good to go | 14:37 | ||
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| tonyo | nemokosch: what's your talk on? | 17:01 | |
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| nemokosch | the submission should show up now | 17:33 | |
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| antononcube | @nemokosch So, are the topic(s) of your talk a secret? | 18:50 | |
| nemokosch | no, quite the contrary, it should be public | ||
| I even linked the drafts 😄 | 18:52 | ||
| antononcube | Ah, yeah, I see a talk titled "City dwelling losers, pear-shaped." | 18:53 | |
| nemokosch | I think you're looking at the Wolfram conference | ||
| antononcube | LOL 🙂 🙂 🙂 | ||
| WTC-2023 is two days after TRC-2023. | 18:54 | ||
| Today I have been trying to start preparing for WTC-2023, but I keep ending up preparing for TRC-2023... | 18:57 | ||
| nemokosch | better than the other way around | 19:04 | |
| antononcube | 🙂 🙂 | 19:05 | |
| nemokosch | at some point, the default date format changed to contain fractions of a second | 19:15 | |
| I wonder just how many tests this change alone broke | |||
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| Nemokosch | bisectable: say DateTime.new: :1year, second => 1.134565 | 19:20 | |
| bisectable6 | Nemokosch, Will bisect the whole range automagically because no endpoints were provided, hang tight | ||
| Nemokosch, ¦6c (72 commits): «0001-01-01T00:00:01.134565Z» | |||
| Nemokosch, Nothing to bisect! | |||
| Nemokosch | then what exactly is needed to reproduce it? it clearly didn't always add the fractional part for cases that are tested for | 19:21 | |
| this is the second time a random module has test cases broken because of the fractional part | |||
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| mst | gah | 20:35 | |
| other people's languages should steal .= already | 20:36 | ||
| foo = foo.method(...) just isn't as nice | |||
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| nemokosch | what languages do you use? | 20:51 | |
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| antononcube | I think "other languages" that adopted monadic operators -- forwared feed ==> in Raku -- are more convenient to make pipelines with. =. can be chained, but that produces unexpected results. | 21:02 | |
| @nemokosch I have a Hungarian question. | 21:04 | ||
| nemokosch | sure? | 21:05 | |
| antononcube | Does this translation seem correct, faithful? | 21:09 | |
| cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...e88e2& | |||
| Mmmm... that example is too wordy, I will change it. But still it is good to know is the Hungarian correct. | |||
| nemokosch | there are strong calques for sure | 21:11 | |
| "let me tell you" - I don't know if there is an expression like this that doesn't slip to a more pedantic, "journalist" stylistic layer | 21:13 | ||
| but in any case, nobody would actually say "engedj elmesélni" | |||
| that's really just a naive calque | |||
| "átöleltem a őrületet" - this is like the last nail | 21:14 | ||
| wrong article and completely undecipherable word-by-word translation | 21:15 | ||
| "embrace" has a meaning that is really hard to translate | |||
| this is the problem with all translations, in my opinion | |||
| one just doesn't speak the same way | |||
| I don't phrase things in Hungarian in a way that would require a verb like "embrace" | 21:16 | ||
| antononcube | Well, the LLM persona used is named MadHatter, but that does not mean wrong grammar or style. | ||
| nemokosch | in English, actually I do, it can be acquired | ||
| antononcube | Ok, good to know! | 21:17 | |
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