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tbrowder .tell antononcube: see day 11, raku advent 2020 03:00
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jdv antononcube: what's the verdict? 05:10
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antononcube I posted those earlier : 10:00
@jdv I am sorry, I do not understand what to do with the "new REPL" and "Jupyter::Chatbook" issue you pointed out.
Am I supposed to install a new version of Raku in order to see that issue on my computer?
Is the same issue present for "Jupyter::Kernel" ? 10:01
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Geth ecosystem/main: b799c38085 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Acme::Flutterby

It doesn't compile, META is wrong, and it's not that funny
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ecosystem/main: 8022ffd182 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Kains

META is wrong and nobody noticed for 9 years
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ecosystem/main: 952cf207fb | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove POSIX

META is wrong and nobody noticed for 9 years. Also most of the functionality is available in P5xxx modules.
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ecosystem/main: c77ceebf1a | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Text::Spintax

It is being migrated to Raku Community modules
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ecosystem/main: 6c21c8d74a | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Test::Declare

It has been moved to Raku Community modules
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ecosystem/main: 9e6f720288 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Rempved WWW::SilverGoldBull

It appears the WWW::SilverGoldBull API is no more
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ecosystem/main: 21b89eb829 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Automata::Cellular

It has been migrated as a Raku Community module
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antononcube @jdv or anyone else -- can you tell me what does this mean? > Invalid REPL environment: Unable to initialize REPL outside of a TTY 13:46
lizmat ab5tract might know 13:53
what I think it means is that you try to start a repl without $*IN.t being true 13:54
basically: 13:55
% raku --repl-mode=tty <foo
===SORRY!===
Invalid REPL environment: Unable to initialize REPL outside of a TTY
antononcube Ok, thanks!
Geth ecosystem/main: cba30fee6d | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Path::Map

It has been migrated to Raku Conmmunity modules
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antononcube .seen grondilu 14:16
Geth ecosystem/main: 934b561d54 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove FROGGS Foo modules

The Foos were just intended as ecosystem tests. There are plenty of modules with identical names but different auths/versions/apis in the other content storages, so there's little point in keeping them.
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ecosystem/main: 81f5b79015 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Remove Zef::Reporter

It is obsolete
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ab5tract antononcube: yeah that’s precisely right 14:53
If you start the processs with —try-mode=process it will work … unless you then call repl() ;) 14:54
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antononcube Ok. Thanks! I will investigate... 15:16
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Add final post for the 22nd
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ecosystem/main: e81da3b39a | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Removed Email::Notmuch

It has been migrated to Raku Community modules
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[Coke] I would slightly argue against bringing in items that aren't using the Artistic 2.0 into the community pool without a discussion 17:08
esp. GPL related licenses.
lizmat oops, did I mess up the license? which module ? 17:09
ah, you mean: should modules with a non-artistic license live in Raku community modules at all 17:10
Geth ecosystem/main: 8a8618a732 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Removed Concurrent::BoundedChannel

It has been moved to Raku Community modules
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ecosystem/main: a564ba2e38 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list
Removed PriorityQueue

This has been effectively superseded by Concurrent::PriorityQueue
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[Coke] right 17:21
lizmat perhaps a problem solving issue ? 17:28
finanalyst [Coke] Have you a couple of minutes? 17:29
I'm starting work on a 'secondaries' plugin. Currently the website generates 1400 extra files. Most of them only repeat a little section from one file, based on data in `=head`. I am thinking that a secondary should only be generated if there are two or more sections, references to two or more primary files. In addition, we can create a 'must-do' 17:33
list based on existing external references to some secondary file
[Coke] The reason to keep the page even if only 1 is to allow for easier to generate deep links 17:36
like docs.raku.org/routine/run
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finanalyst so you see benefit in generating so many pages. It's easier to handle, I was trying to reduce file numbers 17:40
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[Coke] Yah, I'd leave it. 17:44
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ab5tract I don't like the idea of excluding non-Artistic 2.0 licensed modules. 18:34
So a problem solving ticket is probably the right way to go
The idea that we would reject GPL-licensed modules out of hand is anathema to me 18:39
lizmat [Coke] said: "slightly argue against" so it's not at all this black and white, ab5tract :-) 18:40
ab5tract fair :)
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[Coke] the bigger problem solving issue is: what makes something eligible to be a RCM? I'm not aware of any criteria at the moment other than "abandoned" and maybe "author consent". 19:28
of all the criteria we could add, "not being artistic" would be a negative to the scoring, not a rejection. 19:29
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Remove MQTT::Client

It has been ported to Raku Community modules
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ab5tract I just don’t see why GPL is a negative in any sense. Artistic license is more or less legally untested (AFAIK) and Perl-only. We aren’t a corporation looking to leech off of MIT/BSD exclusively. I guess I’d prefer to leave anti-GPL sentiments to the villains rather than partaking in it ourselves 20:48
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ab5tract TIL that npm is released under the Artistic License :) 21:06
And also that the Artistic license has indeed been central to a relatively major legal case 21:09
patrickb I'd be interested in a link. 21:19
(For the legal case, not npm) 21:20
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[Coke] don't appreciate being called a villain. 21:35
Given our previous misunderstanding about what was actually said versus intent, I would have thought you'd be more careful in interactions with me going forward, ab5tract 21:36
I'll open a problem solving ticket about the overall "what's the criteria", at least.
ab5tract I didn’t intend to call you a villain [Coke], my apologies 21:40
I took it as a matter of course based on your clarifications that you are not inherently anti-GPL 21:43
patrickb: the legal case en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobsen_v._Katzer 21:44
patrickb Thanks, 21:46
ab5tract Also there’s a vast difference between personal preferences and institutional mandates. My comment was only intended to reflect on the latter 21:49
(In terms of FOSS licenses, I mean) 22:06
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grondilu Hello, long time no see. What can be assumed to be PWD of a shell command from the qx operator? 22:31
I guess it's the current directory when the program is executed. silly me. 22:33
the thing is : in my chess module I plan on using pieces images in a images/ directory, and manipulate them with a shell command.
but that won't work outside of the module root directory, will it? 22:34
basically what I'm wondering is how can I attach files to my programs so it can use it from wherever directory it is installed? 22:45
antononcube @grondilu I had chess questions for you. But I see you have updated "Chess". (I need re-review it.) 22:54
Also, it is cool that you published FEN parser notebook and function in Wolfram Community and Wolfram Function Repository! 22:55
grondilu antononcube Yeah I had fun writing this, but the Wolfram Community ended up adding a completely different function to the core 23:09
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grondilu I added a discussion tab to the github repo. Feel free to ask your questions there. 23:18
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