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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
wayland76 [Coke]: Thanks! 00:02
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wayland76 weekly: wayland.github.io/blog/raku/Reachi...nguage.xml 00:06
notable6 wayland76, Noted! (weekly)
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guifa SmokeMachine how would I set the parent class for objects created with that HOW? 01:50
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SmokeMachine guifa: add_parent? On this case (github.com/FCO/Red/blob/29f70d9c86...umod#L179) I added a role instead of a parent… but you can do that on compose, or on new_type… 02:17
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guifa ah I was thinking about using set_default_parent 02:48
akin to the grammar
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wayland76 Question: What's the official DockerHub image for Raku that tracks the latest release? 07:41
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Xliff \o 07:52
In the test module. How can I get subtest() to NOT output to the terminal?
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Xliff In Test.pm6, we have subtest() doing "_diag "Subtest" ~ ($desc ?? ": " ~ $desc !! ''), :force-informative;' as its first instruction. For raw terminal based tests this causes problems. Can we make this go to $output, instead? 08:19
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disbot3 <librasteve> Sussy: to answer your question So what is the niche or I would say the blue ocean we are looking for? It has been decided? 08:40
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disbot3 <librasteve> there are several promising directions - eg (i) raku Grammar fit for LLM-DSL, (ii) raku one-liners, (iii) unicode regexes, (iv) minority language coding and docs, (v) raku as the purest possible expression of HTMX ... the common thread here is that all of these have an external community (LLM folks, Unix folks, regex folks, non-English coders, HTMX adherents) into which we can evangelise ... but I would say that open source 08:47
is an exercise in cat herding and that this is more a process of throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks
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disbot3 <librasteve> I'm putting my tuits into (v) btw and channeling my Matt Mullenweg anger into making a opinionated and distinctive web development library for coders (harcstack.org) 08:49
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wayland76 ...and an improved raku.org :) 09:20
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disbot3 <librasteve> indeed - improving friction to easier adoption 09:29
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disbot3 <holmdunc> wayland76: If you click the vertical "..." icon in the YouTube playlist then "Show unavailable videos" then more detailed info is shown for the status of each video. 10:13
<holmdunc> IMO YouTube made the change to hide unavailable videos in the UI by default because it reflected badly on YT themselves when peoples' carefully curated playlists ended up peppered with deleted videos (taken down to due to YT's terms of service) 10:14
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wayland holmdunc: Yes; my point is, there were 14 videos I could see there, and now they've been made private. I want to know if this is intentional or accidental. 11:12
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Xliff In Test.pm6, we have subtest() doing "_diag "Subtest" ~ ($desc ?? ": " ~ $desc !! ''), :force-informative;' as its first instruction. For raw terminal based tests this causes problems. Can we make this go to $output, instead? 12:00
To rebuild the test module, do I have to recompile raku or is there a workaround? 12:06
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apogee_ntv Raku experts: I'm working with Image::PNG::Portable, it's a pure Raku PNG reader/writer that was adopted by community libs. Is there a good way to optimize read/write functions? The naive implementation works but is very slow. 12:32
On an aside PNG is very hard to do concurrently if I want to add filters because the filters create dependencies between lines. 12:33
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Xliff Ack! subtest() swallows any exception!? 14:07
Not good.
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guifa SmokeMachine: alright, I now have the window set up for some slightly more generic operations, I'll post the code if you want to play with it once I workout the JS -> Raku bridge 14:56
I think what I'll do is install an variable called 'Raku' that the webpage can communicate back with 14:58
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SmokeMachine \o/ 15:03
guifa Right now it's just message sending without direct responses but I might be able to enable that too 15:10
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arkiuat wayland, I like your raku-as-first-language blog post 16:29
it's been so long since I first learned that I have no clue what a good raw-beginner's tutorial or bootcamp text should look like 16:30
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disbot3 <romdav55_30502> Hi, i send a pull request to Template6 module, but now i see, it's in the Module Adoption List, how can i Adopt it? 16:44
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mc2 hello everyone 18:28
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apogee_ntv Xliff: How's notcurses treating you? How can I help? :D 19:23
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tbrowder m: my $w = True; my $res = !$w; say $w 20:22
camelia True
lizmat tbrowder: what did you expect ? 20:25
m: my $w = True; my $res = !$w; say $res
camelia False
tbrowder m: my $w = True; my $res = $w.comb.head eq '!' False !! True; say $res;
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Two terms in a row
at <tmp>:1
------> $w = True; my $res = $w.comb.head eq '!'<HERE> False !! True; say $res;
expecting any of:
infix
infix stopper
postfix
s…
tbrowder yes, thanx
Xliff apogee_ntv: Well, you should be able to see the progress at github.com/Xliff/raku-Terminal-NotCurses 20:29
apogee: It's in a semi-usable state now, but packaging beyond my system hasn't been a priority so the install might be... dicey 20:30
apogee: What distro are you on?
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apogee_ntv Xliff: Mac OS :D 20:35
Xliff LOLOL! 20:36
OK. Let's see how close we can get you.
Do you have notcurses installed? If so, what version?
apogee_ntv 3.0.16 20:37
It looks like
Xliff :s 20:38
I'm porting 3.0.6
Once done, I'll make the jump.
There's a chance I might make it earlier, but that would mean me needing to start from scratch.
It might be best if you want to fork the repo. Then you could create a branch for 3.0.16 and see how much work needs to be done to switch over. 20:39
The big problem is generating the static.c file that's in the repo. That has to come from notcurses.h
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apogee_ntv How did you generate it? 20:53
It might be worth building notcurses as part of the module so we're not depending on people having the right version installed? 20:57
Similar to how I did it with hf tokenizers?
github.com/m-doughty/Raku-Tokenizers (not sure this is the right way to do it but it works) 20:58
That way if we target 3.0.6 we can just create 3.0.6 dylib or so file and always link against that? 21:00
ingy is there an env var to override rakudo writing to ~/.raku ? 21:24
disbot3 <librasteve> @romdav55_30502 - fork it, change to your auth, bump the version and fez it 21:31
Xliff apogee_ntv: I'm not against that approach. 21:33
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apogee_ntv My next big one is ONNX, there's a lib on raku.land but its just a bunch of CLI scripts, no classes or anything. 22:36
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