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| Geth | Papers/main: 9743c4b1bc | (Richard Hainsworth)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | announcements/20260225.md Create 20260225.md Community Affairs Team decision regarding a permaban on a community member |
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| lizmat | 2colours | 13:12 | |
| paging whistlingzephyr on Discord for privmsg on IRC | 13:14 | ||
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| [Coke] | I am surprised that *ne"repos" works with no spaces as a whatevercode. | 15:33 | |
| whistlingzephyr | lizmat: librasteve reached out to me, I'm hoping that was the topic we needed to discus | 15:36 | |
| let me know if I should still try to reach out on IRC for privmsg | |||
| unfortunately the bridge doesn't ping me. apologies for responding only after librasteve was able to reach out to me on Discord side | |||
| lizmat | yeah that was it | 15:39 | |
| no worries! | 15:40 | ||
| whistlingzephyr | alright, I hope librasteve can forward my response. but yes we'll handle the rest from our side. thanks for the heads-up | ||
| librasteve | i have closed the loop | 16:02 | |
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| antononcube | Ha! Again?! | 17:14 | |
| lizmat | yeah :-( | 17:15 | |
| lucs | What happened? Are any details available? | ||
| Is it wrong to ask that? | 17:22 | ||
| lizmat | It's all in the irc logs: for me it was irclogs.raku.org/raku/2026-02-11.html#13:10 and the discussion after that | ||
| that made me realize in two years nothing had changed in the attitude of the op, and that there was thus no hope of improvement / more cooperation / less sealioning / always wanting to get in the last word | 17:23 | ||
| also: irclogs.raku.org/raku/2026-02-11.h...17:03-0001 indicates that the op considers themselves too good to be cleaning up | 17:25 | ||
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| Nemokosch | if you are going to talk about me than at least do it accurately, this is well over the line | 17:27 | |
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| lizmat | also, for reference: irclogs.raku.org/raku/2026-02-11.html#15:26 | 17:40 | |
| librasteve | its a fairy objective and accurate assessment - the recurrence of insults and raking over past arguments - especially considering lizmat was one of those on the receiving end | 17:45 | |
| the CAT obviously had to apply the community guidelines and act in a considered way (again) | 17:46 | ||
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| TheUnforgiven | irclogs.raku.org/raku-dev/2026-02-14.html#17:21 here comes your fair and objective assessment | 17:48 | |
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| aruniecrisps | @lizmat I was wondering if there was a way to match against a diacritic on characters with those diacritics using regex? | 18:30 | |
| lizmat | the only way I can think of atm is to check for all possible letters with that diacritic :-( | 18:31 | |
| m: say "élève" ~~ / é | á | ó | ú | í / | 18:32 | ||
| camelia | ｢é｣ | ||
| lizmat | dinner& | 18:33 | |
| [Coke] | m: say "q\c[Combining Acute Accent]" | 18:43 | |
| camelia | q́ | ||
| [Coke] | so if you mean *anything* with a diacritic... | ||
| aruniecrisps | @lizmat looks like matching against indian texts will be a pain then | 18:54 | |
| [Coke] | not as helpful, but you can use one of the decomposed forms and match for the combiner itself. | 18:55 | |
| aruniecrisps | because that means we can't match on vowels if they're in between consonants at all | ||
| @Coke would I just have to match on the NFD? Something like $text.NFD ~~ / regex / | 18:56 | ||
| [Coke] | NFD isn't a string | 19:04 | |
| m: say "élève".grep(0x301) | |||
| camelia | () | ||
| [Coke] | m: say "élève".NFD.grep(0x301) | 19:05 | |
| camelia | (769) | ||
| lizmat | m: say "élève".NFD.first(0x301) # if you just want to know if there are any | ||
| camelia | 769 | ||
| [Coke] | Hurm, how can I do this but with code: | 19:14 | |
| m: say "élève" ~~ / . & l / | 19:15 | ||
| camelia | ｢l｣ | ||
| [Coke] | I want the l to be more like {*.NFD.first(0x301)} | ||
| .seen pmichaud | 19:24 | ||
| tellable6 | [Coke], I saw pmichaud 2018-10-02T15:45:44Z in #perl6: <pmichaud> BTW, the docs page on ""is required"" only mentions scalar variables, a hash or array example might be useful there. | ||
| [Coke] | m: "élève" ~~ / $<char>=. & {my $c = ~$/<char>; say $c if $c.NFD.first(0x301)} / | 19:27 | |
| camelia | é | ||
| [Coke] | That's just abusing say inside the match, it's not matching, but it's closer. | ||
| lizmat | I wonder whether a .comb and a grep would be better / faster | 19:30 | |
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| [Coke] | m: state $combiner; "élève" ~~ / {$combiner = False;} $<char>=. {my $c = ~$/<char>; $combiner=True if $c.NFD} <?{$combiner}> / | 20:24 | |
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| [Coke] | m: state $combiner; say "élève" ~~ / {$combiner = False;} $<char>=. {my $c = ~$/<char>; $combiner=True if $c.NFD} <?{$combiner}> / | ||
| camelia | ｢é｣ char => ｢é｣ |
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| [Coke] | \o/ | ||
| need "run the code" separate from "should this result in a match" | |||
| but yes, depending on where you need that, maybe *just* code is better than a regex. | 20:25 | ||
| m: state $combiner; say "élève" ~~ / {$combiner = False;} $<char>=. {my $c = ~$/<char>; $combiner=True if $c.NFD.first(0x301)} <?{$combiner}> / | 20:26 | ||
| camelia | ｢é｣ char => ｢é｣ |
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| [Coke] | (sorry, not sure where the first() call went in the first one, nor why it worked without it. :) | ||
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| librasteve | ./ | 22:18 | |
| i wonder if anyone can help me - I want to pass a negative decimal to a raku script | |||
| sub MAIN($x) {say $x} using script -0.1 for example | 22:19 | ||
| which of course says Usage: script <x> | 22:20 | ||
| I have tried quoting with '-0.1', "-0.1" and «-0.1» - but these seem to just get stripped by the shell | 22:21 | ||
| lucs | Try `script -- | 22:23 | |
| Er, | |||
| librasteve | oh ... chatjippity came up with this script -- -0.1 so -- is the end of options marker | ||
| lucs | `script -- -0.1` | ||
| librasteve | lol - thanks! | ||
| Voldenet | > raku -e 'sub MAIN(:$x) {say $x}' -x=-0.1 | 22:46 | |
| fwiw I prefer this form | |||
| librasteve | well I want to say crag -0.1-0.2 output 0.3, so this is not the general case | 22:59 | |
| or rather crag '-0.1-0.2' | 23:00 | ||
| admittedly, this is weird | 23:01 | ||
| Voldenet | makes sense | 23:03 | |
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