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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| david7832 | Reading the docs on dynamic Variables, among the $~ variables there's this mention: | 00:36 | |
| $~Quasi the current root of quasiquoting language | |||
| tellable6 | 2026-03-19T02:18:38Z #raku <[Coke]> david: github.com/coke/raku-unicode-mangl...26a3f75c69 | ||
| 2026-03-19T04:20:40Z #raku <[Coke]> david: github.com/coke/raku-unicode-mangler/pull/8 - this generates stuff that looks pretty good on my mac. (didn't deal with the weird ones in the gist yet) | |||
| david7832 | m: say $~Quasi | ||
| camelia | Slang.new(:grammar(Any), :actions(Any)) | ||
| david7832 | i.e. the same as for any nonexistent $~ variable | ||
| m: say $~asdfgh | |||
| camelia | Slang.new(:grammar(Any), :actions(Any)) | ||
| david7832 | Should this be removed from the docs? | 00:37 | |
| docs.raku.org/language/variables#The_~_twigil | |||
| same for $~Trans the current root of transliteration language | 00:42 | ||
| m: say $~Trans | |||
| camelia | Slang.new(:grammar(Any), :actions(Any)) | ||
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| [Coke] | ls | 01:16 | |
| ... oops | |||
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| [Coke] | m: dd $~MAIN | 01:26 | |
| camelia | Slang.new(grammar => Perl6::Grammar.new() #`[3643111188432], actions => Perl6::Actions.new() #`[3643111187424]) | ||
| [Coke] | m: dd $~Quasi | ||
| camelia | Slang.new(grammar => Any, actions => Any) | ||
| [Coke] | is it a doc bug or a rakudo bug? | 01:28 | |
| I don't see Quasi anywhere in rakudo src | 01:30 | ||
| disbot2 | <tpaul64_18694> Fuzzy Times | 02:01 | |
| <tpaul64_18694> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...7ea14& | |||
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| disbot2 | <tpaul64_18694> here's a screenshot of the main afl-fuzz process which just hit one million execs | 02:26 | |
| <tpaul64_18694> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...a3ede& | |||
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| david7832 | Regarding quasiquoting: This seems to be the most pertinent design document: github.com/Raku/old-design-docs/bl...asiquoting | 10:27 | |
| So quasiquoting is related to RakuAST. In the rakudo source, one can find stuff on through rg 'quasi_ast' or more broadly by sifting through the output of rg -i 'quasi' | |||
| timo | yeah, quasiquotes are an aspect of macros | 10:33 | |
| RakuAST is our standardised data structure / format to represent ASTs which is what quasi will spit out | |||
| we had experimental macro support in the past already | 10:35 | ||
| it was relatively limited and had some issues that the user couldn't really work around | |||
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| Geth | CCR/main: 8c78d3c216 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 68 files Masak blog posts: rest of 2011, whole of 2012 |
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| Geth | CCR/main: b94272e9e7 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 11 files Masak blog posts 2013 |
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| librasteve_ | david7832: my understanding is that the current push to RakuAST will open the door to revisit the whole 007 macro experiments | 14:09 | |
| tellable6 | librasteve_, I'll pass your message to david7832 | ||
| Geth | CCR/main: 7c59e841b3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 12 files Masak blog posts 2014 |
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| lizmat | antononcube stackoverflow.com/questions/799151...-anthropic ? | 17:19 | |
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| Geth | CCR/main: 41cb3e4954 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 8 files Masak blog posts 2015 |
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| disbot2 | <antononcube> Anthropic-shmantropic | 18:35 | |
| <antononcube> I do not have an accound with Anthropic and last time I tried ton sign-in they required too much personal information. (Which I did not want to share.) | 18:36 | ||
| <antononcube> I their LLM-access Web API is similar / same as that OpenAI -- most companies like this keep that kind of compatibility -- then Anthropic models can be used via "WWW::OpenAI" by providing arguments for ":$base-url" and ":$auth-key". | 18:38 | ||
| <antononcube> Also, Ollama can be used with Claude Code (), maybe Raku's Ollama client ("WWW::Ollama") can be used with Claude / Anthropic in some way. | 18:42 | ||
| Geth | CCR/main: a5fcc8dd14 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 6 files Masak blog posts 2016 |
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| disbot2 | <antononcube> BTW, if someone is willing to "donate" Anthropoc API key to me -- for a day or two -- I can implement "WWW::Anthropic". | 18:46 | |
| lizmat | weekly: <antononcube> BTW, if someone is willing to "donate" Anthropoc API key to me -- for a day or two -- I can implement "WWW::Anthropic" | 18:47 | |
| notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| disbot2 | <antononcube> I can start the implementation of "WWW::Anthropic", regardless, actually. The API woud be needed for verification. I can probably make a an adapter to "WWW::Ollama" and / or "WWW::OpenAI" for the testing. | ||
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| disbot2 | <antononcube> @lizmat I replied: stackoverflow.com/a/79916710 | 19:07 | |
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| lizmat | antononcube++ | 22:23 | |
| Geth | CCR/main: bb8cdcc41e | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | 5 files Masak blog posts 2017, 2019 |
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