ugexe m: say "/tmp".IO.resolve.absolute("/bar") 00:01
evalable6__ (exit code 1) Type check failed for return value; expected Str:D but got Mu (Mu)
in block <unit> at /tmp/JRMnlINItF line 1
ugexe similar for .resolve
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Voldenet that StrDistance bug is intruiging, `$_ for 0..@s.end` is weird to read 01:05
erm, `@d[$_][ 0] = $_ for 0..@s.end;`
i'd expect something like `@d[$_][ 0] = $_ for ^@s;` 01:06
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Voldenet those are some solid bug reports though, especially the one with channel 01:15
fwiw StrDistance written by deepseek glot.io/snippets/hhb60hr691 01:40
ugexe usually you'd add a fast path when one of the lengths is 0 01:43
Voldenet yes but
m: say (($ = "fold") ~~ tr/old/new/).Int; # that's the main use case 01:44
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ugexe i'm not seeing how having e.g. return $targetLength if $sourceLength == 0; would affect that 01:45
also i thought the main usecase for StrDistance was suggesting things like subroutine names when you use one that does not exist 01:46
Voldenet ah, totally not, the logic for suggesting is different
github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/b18d...umod#L1256 01:47
it has special scores for - and _
it'd be rare, but there could be some optimized path for empty strings 01:49
there was a conversation a week or two ago on #moarvm regarding introducing an op that'd replace multiple implementations of string distance, but nothing final was implemented 01:55
though I still think that "get most similar string" op would be more useful in the context than raw edit distance 01:59
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ab5tract m: multi s(@a is item) { say “item” }; multi s(@a) { say “array” }; my @a = ^5; s $@a; s @a 13:52
evalable6 item
array
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ab5tract ds7382: that’s what it’s designed to do, so not sure what might be going wrong for you there 13:53
ds7832, david7832, ^^ 13:54
Can you share a full example of all the multi candidates? 13:55
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lizmat .hug AlexDaniel 14:12
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lizmat meh, huggable still awol 14:13
AlexDaniel ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /srv/xbin/Huggable.raku Unable to parse class definition at /srv/xbin/Huggable.raku:10 ------> unit class Huggable does Whateverable<HERE><EOL>
lizmat ok, I'm leaving this to 4zv4l :-) 14:14
AlexDaniel unit class Huggable does Whateverable <---- missing semicolon
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AlexDaniel but I wonder how did that work and when the semicolon was lost 14:14
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disbot2 <antononcube> I have problem installing "HTTP::UserAgent" in my GitHub actions. I get errors like: ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /Users/runner/work/Raku-DSL-Translators/Raku-DSL-Translators/site#sources/47257BA70F233525B020CE3BE828D794F2D0B7D3 (HTTP::UserAgent) Merging GLOBAL symbols failed: duplicate definition of symbol Request ===> Staging LibraryMake:ver<1.0.5>:auth<zef:jjmerelo> at 15:31
/Users/runner/work/Raku-DSL-Translators/Raku-DSL-Translators/site#sources/47257BA70F233525B020CE3BE828D794F2D0B7D3 (HTTP::UserAgent):5 ===> Staging [OK] for LibraryMake:ver<1.0.5>:auth<zef:jjmerelo>
<antononcube> Here is a link: github.com/antononcube/Raku-DSL-Tr...#step:4:98
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disbot2 <antononcube> Do you know how deal with these errors? Should I make GitHub actions install these packages "manually", like, say, zef install HTTP::UserAgent --/test ? 15:33
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david7832 ab5tract: You're totally right, `is item` does work that way for me too. My mistake was having the same function body { .say for @a } in both f(@a) and f(@a is item), thinking that with `is item` the @a would behave differently in the body, in the way $a behaves in f($a) { .say for $a } where there is just one iteration in which the entire list 15:59
gets printed.
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david7832 Yet another question: Is there a good way to represent complex infinity? I.e. if we call it cinf, then cinf == i*cinf == -cinf == -i*cinf, as opposed to the inbuilt Inf. 17:03
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disbot2 <librasteve> fwiw I have been playing with Inf in App::Crag as the result of a DBZ (ideally this issue would be implemented github.com/issues/mentioned?page=1...ing%7C515) 17:45
<librasteve> for complex Inf, I would say a few things … (i) a module to do that would be welcome (ii) please can you follow the style of Inf and NaN wrt caps eg maybe CIinf … 17:47
<librasteve> (iii) it has become clear that making Rats hold the sign of the denominator is not sensible, so we live in a world where Rat DBZ (eg when rendering <1/-0>) returns Inf and not -Inf 17:50
<librasteve> (iv) so to do a proper job with Complex depends on whether the two Reals are Num or Rat (or a mixture) … so I would like to see a design for that that tends to the Real Inf result where Imaginary part is zero 17:52
<librasteve> (v) we might want to think about the situation where RATOVERFLOW is Num (ie use Num semantics) vs Rat (ie use Rat semantics) 17:54
<librasteve> (vi) IEEE does not define complex inf … so my initial proposal would be to use these Num (signed Inf) or Rat (always CInf) semantics depending on what you have … 17:58
<librasteve> (vii) I would be tempted to do that by just returning CIinf (ie never -CInf) if one of the terms is a Rat (but I haven’t really thought about it) 17:59
david7832 Regarding (vii): For an implementation of the complex sphere (which is what I have in mind): 18:24
Always returning CInf is most likely the right way. There should not be any difference at all between CInf and -CInf (or i*CInf or -i*CInf), since mathematically they're all just the same point at infinity. In fact, the same holds for 0 here, i.e. there should be no difference between -0 and +0, since unlike in the Reals, in the Complex numbers
there's no hard distinction between directions anymore (i.e. + and − lie on a continuum).
Implementing that in a numerically good way is a different question, of course...
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disbot2 <librasteve> sorry … that all sounded rather bossy … your code, your call :-) 18:48
david7832 didn't think that at all :)
the notes on how Rat & Num handle infinity are very helpful 18:49
disbot2 <librasteve> oh and the docs here docs.raku.org/language/variables#$*RAT-OVERFLOW (bottom of the section) have a joke example of how to adjust RAT-OVERFLOW … might be worth thinking about 18:50
<librasteve> of course Rat does not need to handle infinity until it is coerced to something else (Str, Num) since <42/0> is anyway fine 18:51
david7832 ha, that joke example is almost exactly what I think is needed here, which is: `$nu.abs > $de ?? CInf !! 0` 18:58
(in case one only wants complex numbers with rational real & imaginary part, of course) 18:59
on second thought, I suppose RAT-OVERFLOW can also occur in circumstances where this isn't what one wants 19:02
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disbot2 <librasteve> yeah - if you are doing serious math, you probably don't want to unpredictably[1] bump to Num and lose precision... 19:21
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disbot2 <librasteve> [1] that means I haven't really worked out how to predict it, not that it can't be predicted ;-) 19:22
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AlexDaniel .hug lizmat 19:43
huggable6 hugs lizmat
AlexDaniel that looks close enough hahaha
sibl ah indeed 19:46
how come, when I tested on a custom channel it worked
AlexDaniel I think we changed that code a little bit, right? 19:48
perhaps whateverable auto-escapes control characters, so you probably still need $.irc.send 19:49
my suggestion to return just a string was at the time when it was literally just sending a message
in that case, yeah, you can just return it and it'll be sent just fine. But for raw actions perhaps you need to handle the sending yourself
.hug lizmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat 19:50
huggable6 gist.github.com/be0cf49a7980b73931...43ea1cbd31
AlexDaniel see, it's trying to be smart :)
sibl I can make it send as message, or if you know how I can escape that, I can do it as well xD
maybe I can try to modify the filter method ? xD 19:56
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sibl seems a bit too hard for me, I will settle for the simple message for now ;-; 19:58
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AlexDaniel sibl: well, one way those cases are handled is with `but`: github.com/Raku/whateverable/blob/...m6#L25-L28 20:00
sibl: so basically you can `but ProperStr(…)` on any string and it'll add stuff that will be passed along. So in theory you can add something like `but RawAction(…)` and in the presence of that it'd skip all the filtering 20:01
but it's totally fine to have a custom send too, if that works in all cases 20:02
huggable6: me 20:03
huggable6 hugs me
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sibl I think I figured out, I made a pr 20:19
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> .hug 20:55
<simon_sibl> 🥲🥲🥲 20:56
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> .hug 20:57
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thelounge4285 .hug 21:13
huggable6 hugs thelounge4285
disbot2 <simon_sibl> .hug
huggable6 hugs simon_sibl
disbot2 <simon_sibl> Alright almost work on discord 21:14
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> Seems like a formatting problem tho not fork the bot 21:14
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> Oooh it is, I guess the filter usually handle the _ 21:15
AlexDaniel huggable6: hug lizmat 21:19
huggable6 hugs lizmat
AlexDaniel huggable6: sibl
huggable6 hugs sibl
AlexDaniel I'd call that a success :)
huggable6: help
huggable6 AlexDaniel, Like this: .hug <nick> # See wiki for more examples: github.com/Raku/whateverable/wiki/Huggable
AlexDaniel why did you make that bot though? You know that you can just hug people, right? :D 21:20
sounds a bit passive aggressive to me actually, asking a bot to hug someone. Like why not you yourself? 21:21
disbot2 <simon_sibl> Oh yeah I can, just I read a blog few days ago and they talked about a hug bot, so I wanted to remake it 😆 21:38
<simon_sibl> Mostly it can hug yourself even when nobody is there
<simon_sibl> But I get what you mean 21:39
<simon_sibl> Someone being mean, and instead of saying “who hurt you” you just use “.hug <nick>” 21:40
<simon_sibl> I didn’t think of that
AlexDaniel we can just see how it goes :) 21:47
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> If it goes bad (hopefully won’t) I can just add the nickname of the sender before “hugs” so that the bot simply becomes a helper to hug people 21:59
<simon_sibl> .hug everyone
huggable6 hugs everyone
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disbot2 <simon_sibl> People will always find a way to turn something good into something bad if they really want to I guess, from my pov, it’s just hugging and sharing 🤗 22:00
AlexDaniel yeah, agreed 🤗 Good job! 22:11
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lizmat simon_sibl++ AlexDaniel++ 23:01
.hug sibl AlexDaniel
huggable6 hugs sibl AlexDaniel
timo .hug the sun 23:07
huggable6 hugs the sun
disbot2 <simon_sibl> Oof, didn’t get burn ? Put your solar cream before hand ? 23:18
AlexDaniel maybe it should say “passes <from>'s hug to <to>”. A bit harsh in case of the sun, but maybe more meaningful 23:55

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