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| rir | Coke: thanks re raku.org/ content | 03:59 | |
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| kaestralblades | I'm surprised there's no raku matrix room | 18:49 | |
| mc2 | kaestralblades: as long as IRC logs are here irclogs.raku.org/home.html, why would matrix be helpful ? (actually I ask myself this qyestion fir discord too ... I have a FOMO symptoms here?) | 19:35 | |
| also: how hard is it to create a matrix channel with a bridge the way discord rakoons does ? | |||
| (as long as IRC is the main channel I remain happy) | 19:36 | ||
| actually my prefered way to interact with the community is no longer documented: perl6-users mailing list | 19:37 | ||
| Voldenet | what is the matrix | 19:42 | |
| ;^) | |||
| hankache | matrix who ;) | 19:46 | |
| tadzik | this room used to be bridged to Matrix when the whole libera.chat was; I don't know of any Raku Matrix room nowadays | 19:50 | |
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| kaestralblades | mc2: matrix has a lot more features compared to irc now (not just log history, though it helps especially when it comes to allowing new joiners to see that in client) - presence, bios, profile pictures, voice channels, the ability to categorize rooms into a "space" a la a discord server, typing indicators (if that is of interest to someone), read indicators (also if that is of interest to anyone), pinned messages, threads | 20:06 | |
| matrix <-> discord is pretty easy | |||
| oh, message editing too :) | 20:07 | ||
| (and deletion) | |||
| custom emojis and stickers, i guess, if you're of that crowd | 20:08 | ||
| voice messages are also a standard, as well are file uploads, markdown as a standard | 20:12 | ||
| Voldenet | I don't really understand how one combines voice channels with history | 20:13 | |
| it makes zero sense to have both | 20:14 | ||
| [Coke] | note - As I understand it, we want to push the release out at least one week, so no release this saturday. (Still gives us a week to get a 2026.10) | ||
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| kaestralblades | Voldenet: yeah, its probably not necessary for raku. just one of many matrix features, though | 20:25 | |
| i like everything else (message reactions, editing/deletion, federation, profiles, typing, status, multi-room spaces & space organization, e2ee, etc.) | 20:26 | ||
| (that should come through, idk if it did, just tried to set up my media proxy) | 20:29 | ||
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| Voldenet | it did, though I admit that I would use none of those features | 20:34 | |
| mc2 | kaestralblades: that's why I don't matrix: "message editing" is a bug, not a feature. none of the other features you mentionned is something I expect from a chat system so to me matrix is just a slow, network consumming and complicated IRC | 20:40 | |
| I guess I will be disapointed too if I test discord at some point | 20:42 | ||
| I used irsii for more than a decade and now use weechat and in a tmux in a remote machine with multiple networks (including private ones) from the same client. that's the kind of features that pleases me. The missing feature is to edit lines into a vim buffer. | 20:46 | ||
| (maybe it's possible. I never tried) | 20:47 | ||
| hankache | I don't think anyone of them is inherently wrong. They serve different audiences. The newer platform like matrix, discord, slack, etc. adapted to the shift in how people communicate. And to a certain extent even irc. I think v3 has introduced avatars if I am not mistaken. | 20:48 | |
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| mc2 | By no mean I said it's wrong. just said it was useless to me and doesn't provide what irc clients has to offer. but the most convenient way to communicate with a group is by far mailing lists to me (because people use newsgroups no more which is a tragedy) | 20:53 | |
| hankache | That being said text is the common denominator for everyone. You can never go wrong there. Some people might no necessarily like or use these newer features | 20:55 | |
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| mc2 | true | 20:58 | |
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| kaestralblades | (also in line replies are nice | 22:10 | |
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