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disbot <antononcube> “Handroll” is a good word for that! 12:57
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[Coke] anyone have code that explicitly is marking exceptions as handled? (Seeing some "new" (probably 2026.09) behavior in a raku/doc test around that (very verbose output from some errors that are in a try block with no CATCH to just ignore exceptions I don't care about 13:47
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lizmat m: dd Exception.new.defined 14:06
camelia Bool::True
lizmat m: my $e = Exception.new; $e.defined; dd $e 14:07
camelia $e = Exception.new
lizmat m: my $e = Exception.new; $e.defined; say $e
camelia Unthrown Exception with no message
lizmat m: my $e = Exception.new("foo"; $e.defined; say $e
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Cannot use variable $e in declaration to initialize itself
at <tmp>:1
------> my $e = Exception.new("foo"; $<HERE>e.defined; say $e
expecting any of:
argument list
term
lizmat m: my $e = Exception.new("foo"); $e.defined; say $e
camelia Default constructor for 'Exception' only takes named arguments
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: my $e = Exception.new(:payload<foo>); $e.defined; say $e
camelia Unthrown Exception with no message
lizmat hmmm 14:08
m: CATCH { .defined; dd $_ }; die "foo"
camelia X::AdHoc.new(payload => "foo")
foo
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: CATCH { .defined; say $_ }; die "foo"
camelia foo
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

foo
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat m: CATCH { .defined; dd .handled }; die "foo"
camelia No such method 'handled' for invocant of type 'X::AdHoc'
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
lizmat ah, duh, having been handled or not is a Failure thing, not an Exception thing 14:11
m: 'my $f = "foo".Failure; dd $f.handled; $f.defined; dd $f.handled 14:12
camelia ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in single quotes; couldn't find final "'" (corresponding starter was at line 1)
at <tmp>:1
------> dd $f.handled; $f.defined; dd $f.handled<HERE><EOL>
expecting any of:
…
lizmat m: my $f = "foo".Failure; dd $f.handled; $f.defined; dd $f.handled
camelia Bool::False
Bool::True
lizmat you "handle" a Failure by calling .defined or .Bool
m: my $f = "foo".Failure; dd $f.handled; $f.Bool; dd $f.handled
camelia Bool::False
Bool::True
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SmokeMachine How cool is this?!! usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/.../image.png 19:21
lizmat pretty cool? 19:23
SmokeMachine Also... I'm thinking on removing the Pg driver from inside Red and making it a distro... I think it will make it easier to install Red... any opinion? 19:25
lizmat the would be more DBI like :-) 19:26
SmokeMachine yes... but I'm thinking on leaving the SQLite inside Red...
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