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tbrowder howdy, i see Pod::To::Markdown currently relies on the broken Pod::To::HTML. that is a showstopper right now for at least one of my modules which need upgrading 15:14
we need that puppy fixed if anyone can 15:16
i may be getting a chance to pitch Raku to my grandson's intro computer class and i want no warts lurking in the weeds 15:22
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tbrowder is there a replacement for Pod::To::Markdown? 15:24
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tbrowder @finanalyst's stuff is not easily dropin at least for me 15:30
our "ecosystem" is getting VERY FRAGILE 15:31
not good for inviting noobs 15:32
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tbrowder i've tried downgrading my version of raku to no avail 15:33
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lizmat tbrowder: it looks like the failure is a caused by some very small whitespace changes... 16:09
have you tried installing with --force or --/test ?
tbrowder no 16:15
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tbrowder i’ll try that. thanks 16:16
er, which module do you see the ws error in? 16:18
[Coke] I ask this occasionally - anyone using something that generates TAP (e.g. raku or perl) in azure pipelines? if so, do you mangle it all so it's easier to spot errors? (searching 10K lines for 'not ok' is not great) 16:36
wonder if I can just use 'tap2junit' to get something usable. 16:38
lizmat I would welcome that :-)
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tbrowder lizmat: i tried both but it failed. in which module do you see the small ws error? 16:45
lizmat Pod::To::HTML from raku-community-modules
tbrowder can you fix it? 16:46
that would be worth a reward šŸ˜„ 16:47
lizmat hmm... further inspection shows that there is some confusion as to what constitutes an implicit code block 16:55
and that leads to wondering whether the problem is with the old implementation, or with the new 16:59
in any case, if you're not using implicit code blocks in your pod, you should be fine
and even if you are, you should probably be fine 17:00
the RakuAST based rendering just renders slightly different
[Coke] Wonder why this wasn't caught in blin. assuming json::Class is involved somehow. :) 17:08
why, every so often, does rakubrew setup in my powershell take 10+ seconds 17:11
ugexe kind of funny the fix has been sitting as a PR in the repo for a month 17:12
tellable6 2026-10-28T15:29:58Z #raku-dev <ab5tract> ugexe: ever pointed Claude at the dual-JIT situation as a cleanup operation?
[Coke] ah, the old "we have too many modules under community maintained" problem. 17:13
ugexe i mean i would expect people to at least check the PRs on a repo they think is broken 17:14
[Coke] Yah, that's on me.
ugexe as for azure job that generates tap, i would suggest looking at the spec test runs for rakudo. or maybe its the make test. regardless, one of the two outputs the test summary you'd get locally at the end 17:15
the CI spec test runs^
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[Coke] Thanks. 17:17
rerunning the pod-to-html pr's CI
ugexe still needs the fix to be released 17:19
the rakudo fix referenced in the PR rather 17:20
lizmat heh, thanks for the reminder! 17:21
[Coke] As I was trying to comment while this got merged, yes, this won't work until 2026.10 17:22
(still needs merging, but it's not going to matter unless someone is on rakudo HEAD)
er, until 2026.11
added that note to the merged PR. 17:24
lizmat Pod::To::HTML 0.9.1 released 17:25
[Coke] Note that you'll still need to install with tests disabled for now 17:27
lizmat and yet another Raku Weekly News hits the Net: rakuweekly.blog/2026/11/02/2026-44...-doc-beta/ 17:40
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disbot <antononcube> I think "zed" is an old editor. (In regard to this note, posted in the weekly news: www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6...11772.html .) 17:46
lizmat well,, it was a recent post on the mailing list... that's all *I* know :-) 17:47
disbot <antononcube> Agh, no, I confused "Zed" with "jed" (and, yes, that one is from 1993.) 17:48
lizmat
.oO( so close and jed so far :-)
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disbot <antononcube> BTW, better to use Gram, not Zed. The latter has telemetry features in order to support AI / LLMs. 17:53
<antononcube> It looks like, Zed is free to use, but one has to pay for the use of its AI / LLM features. 17:54
<antononcube> See lwn.net/Articles/1060912/ 17:55
tbrowder ok, i now have the latest version of main Pod::To::HTML from raku-communities, whew! 17:57
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tbrowder somebody changed from master to main when i wasn't looking 18:00
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tbrowder so, for my poor addled brain, are Pod::To::Markdown and Pod::To::HTML gone forever? 18:30
lizmat they're both community modules ? so why should they be gone? 18:34
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lizmat fwiw, I've just uploaded new versions of Pod::To::HTML and Pod::To::Markdown 19:03
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tbrowder lizmat: thank you! i was seeing errors in the prev version that made no sense to me 23:04
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