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| tbrowder | howdy, i see Pod::To::Markdown currently relies on the broken Pod::To::HTML. that is a showstopper right now for at least one of my modules which need upgrading | 15:14 | |
| we need that puppy fixed if anyone can | 15:16 | ||
| i may be getting a chance to pitch Raku to my grandson's intro computer class and i want no warts lurking in the weeds | 15:22 | ||
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| tbrowder | is there a replacement for Pod::To::Markdown? | 15:24 | |
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| tbrowder | @finanalyst's stuff is not easily dropin at least for me | 15:30 | |
| our "ecosystem" is getting VERY FRAGILE | 15:31 | ||
| not good for inviting noobs | 15:32 | ||
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| tbrowder | i've tried downgrading my version of raku to no avail | 15:33 | |
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| lizmat | tbrowder: it looks like the failure is a caused by some very small whitespace changes... | 16:09 | |
| have you tried installing with --force or --/test ? | |||
| tbrowder | no | 16:15 | |
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| tbrowder | iāll try that. thanks | 16:16 | |
| er, which module do you see the ws error in? | 16:18 | ||
| [Coke] | I ask this occasionally - anyone using something that generates TAP (e.g. raku or perl) in azure pipelines? if so, do you mangle it all so it's easier to spot errors? (searching 10K lines for 'not ok' is not great) | 16:36 | |
| wonder if I can just use 'tap2junit' to get something usable. | 16:38 | ||
| lizmat | I would welcome that :-) | ||
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| tbrowder | lizmat: i tried both but it failed. in which module do you see the small ws error? | 16:45 | |
| lizmat | Pod::To::HTML from raku-community-modules | ||
| tbrowder | can you fix it? | 16:46 | |
| that would be worth a reward š | 16:47 | ||
| lizmat | hmm... further inspection shows that there is some confusion as to what constitutes an implicit code block | 16:55 | |
| and that leads to wondering whether the problem is with the old implementation, or with the new | 16:59 | ||
| in any case, if you're not using implicit code blocks in your pod, you should be fine | |||
| and even if you are, you should probably be fine | 17:00 | ||
| the RakuAST based rendering just renders slightly different | |||
| [Coke] | Wonder why this wasn't caught in blin. assuming json::Class is involved somehow. :) | 17:08 | |
| why, every so often, does rakubrew setup in my powershell take 10+ seconds | 17:11 | ||
| ugexe | kind of funny the fix has been sitting as a PR in the repo for a month | 17:12 | |
| tellable6 | 2026-10-28T15:29:58Z #raku-dev <ab5tract> ugexe: ever pointed Claude at the dual-JIT situation as a cleanup operation? | ||
| [Coke] | ah, the old "we have too many modules under community maintained" problem. | 17:13 | |
| ugexe | i mean i would expect people to at least check the PRs on a repo they think is broken | 17:14 | |
| [Coke] | Yah, that's on me. | ||
| ugexe | as for azure job that generates tap, i would suggest looking at the spec test runs for rakudo. or maybe its the make test. regardless, one of the two outputs the test summary you'd get locally at the end | 17:15 | |
| the CI spec test runs^ | |||
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| [Coke] | Thanks. | 17:17 | |
| rerunning the pod-to-html pr's CI | |||
| ugexe | still needs the fix to be released | 17:19 | |
| the rakudo fix referenced in the PR rather | 17:20 | ||
| lizmat | heh, thanks for the reminder! | 17:21 | |
| [Coke] | As I was trying to comment while this got merged, yes, this won't work until 2026.10 | 17:22 | |
| (still needs merging, but it's not going to matter unless someone is on rakudo HEAD) | |||
| er, until 2026.11 | |||
| added that note to the merged PR. | 17:24 | ||
| lizmat | Pod::To::HTML 0.9.1 released | 17:25 | |
| [Coke] | Note that you'll still need to install with tests disabled for now | 17:27 | |
| lizmat | and yet another Raku Weekly News hits the Net: rakuweekly.blog/2026/11/02/2026-44...-doc-beta/ | 17:40 | |
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| disbot | <antononcube> I think "zed" is an old editor. (In regard to this note, posted in the weekly news: www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6...11772.html .) | 17:46 | |
| lizmat | well,, it was a recent post on the mailing list... that's all *I* know :-) | 17:47 | |
| disbot | <antononcube> Agh, no, I confused "Zed" with "jed" (and, yes, that one is from 1993.) | 17:48 | |
| lizmat | .oO( so close and jed so far :-) |
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| disbot | <antononcube> BTW, better to use Gram, not Zed. The latter has telemetry features in order to support AI / LLMs. | 17:53 | |
| <antononcube> It looks like, Zed is free to use, but one has to pay for the use of its AI / LLM features. | 17:54 | ||
| <antononcube> See lwn.net/Articles/1060912/ | 17:55 | ||
| tbrowder | ok, i now have the latest version of main Pod::To::HTML from raku-communities, whew! | 17:57 | |
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| tbrowder | somebody changed from master to main when i wasn't looking | 18:00 | |
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| tbrowder | so, for my poor addled brain, are Pod::To::Markdown and Pod::To::HTML gone forever? | 18:30 | |
| lizmat | they're both community modules ? so why should they be gone? | 18:34 | |
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| lizmat | fwiw, I've just uploaded new versions of Pod::To::HTML and Pod::To::Markdown | 19:03 | |
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| tbrowder | lizmat: thank you! i was seeing errors in the prev version that made no sense to me | 23:04 | |
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