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| disbot | <antononcube> Who is grizzlysmit ? Is that person/entity around? | 10:59 | |
| lizmat | have not seen them online anywhere just yet | 11:08 | |
| but yeah, they're taking the "release early, release often" a bit far | 11:22 | ||
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| disbot | <antononcube> Yeah, there many same Raku package submissions made within a short time interval -- strongly hints on using AI-agents. | 11:47 | |
| <antononcube> I personally, think it is not good look for the Raku community, and it makes raku.land less informative. | 11:49 | ||
| lizmat | it does... the easy fix would be in raku.land to not repeat identical consecutive releases | 11:55 | |
| identical in the sense of the same module and the same auth/api | |||
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| lizmat | Not sure how we would be able to spot an AI making the submissions | 11:58 | |
| I guess fez could build in a limitation of not more than say 4 updates of a distribution in 24 hours | 11:59 | ||
| SmokeMachine | event TooFrequentlyUpload { has Str $.distro; pattern TOP { :24h <?event: :type<upload>, :distro(*.defined)> { $!distro = $<event>.distro } <event: :type<upload>, :$!distro> ** 4..* } } # using eel… :) | 12:04 | |
| lizmat | I think raku.land accepts PRs :-) | 12:06 | |
| disbot | <antononcube> Hm... I would say 4 submissions per hour, but yeah, that kind of solution is good too. | 12:21 | |
| <antononcube> To be clear, my solution is/was less technological, relying on public shaming. | 12:22 | ||
| lizmat | shaming is only in the eye of the beholder | 12:23 | |
| disbot | <antononcube> Yeah, ethics is hard to teach. | ||
| tbrowder | the times i've made more than one release are usually memory lapses and qc problems. imho the greater problem is the duplicated visible statistics on raku.land | 12:41 | |
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| tadzik | so use of ai agents is shamed now? ;) | 13:48 | |
| I thought it's great and hits at language being cool and popular | |||
| jokes aside, sounds like a display problem if anything | 13:49 | ||
| fwiw metacpan doesn't deduplicate or surpress these things either: metacpan.org/recent | 13:51 | ||
| (see Object-Proto for example) | |||
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| disbot | <antononcube> @tadzik Using LLMs fine, "intensively polluting" raku.land with multiple submissions of the same package is not fine. | 14:41 | |
| <antononcube> @tadzik Interesting "straw man" joke. I hope it does not characterize you. | 14:43 | ||
| tadzik | jokes tend to not represent opinions of the speaker, yes | 14:48 | |
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| SmokeMachine | What distribution is that? Where can I see those submissions? | 15:41 | |
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| disbot | <antononcube> @SmokeMachine | 15:47 | |
| <antononcube> @SmokeMachine See here: raku.land/recent | |||
| SmokeMachine | Thanks! I just wanted to be sure that was not me! :) | 15:49 | |
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| [Coke] | rant. smart tv. I turn it on, go to youtube, am about to click on my account... a tv diaglog prompt slides in, STEALS THE CLICK, and slides out. | 17:58 | |
| so I just asked it to do something (hopefully just "install pending tv update") | |||
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| lizmat | hehe... | 18:27 | |
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| lizmat | our Apple TV (from 2015) broke down the other day | 18:27 | |
| didn't feel like having a new one in the house (we don't have 4K screens, and I don't want to have a microphone active in our house) | 18:28 | ||
| luckily a refurbished second hand one was quickly available *phew* | |||
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| refactus | I've always been very happy with a random old junker laptop plugged into a dumb screen and wireless input peripherals | 19:05 | |
| lizmat | yeah, that has been on my mind as well, but shelling out some € for a convenient solution with minimal work, was also very attractive to me | 19:26 | |
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| refactus | fair enough. there is at least for me the extra steps of installing linux on the laptop and configuring everything to use bigger sizes to read further away and logging in to stuff because it's not synced to an apple account or whatnot | 20:09 | |
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