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| sjn | FOSDEM Perl & Raku devroom Call for Presentations is out! blogs.perl.org/users/bduggan/2026/...7-cfp.html :-D | 04:40 | |
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| lizmat | hmmm...... looks like reddit doesn't want web users anymore | 10:01 | |
| I guess I don't want to use reddit anymore then | 10:03 | ||
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| Voldenet | reddit acted like it doesn't want users for a while now | 10:59 | |
| lizmat | well, I guess it didn't affect me until today :-( | 11:01 | |
| but indeed, I don't get the business model | |||
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| disbot | <holmdunc> Though it's interesting how long they've been offering the old.reddit.com site. Usually when a webapp gets redesigned and users don't love some aspects of the redesign, it's just tough luck for the users. But Reddit have been running 2 parallel versions of the UI for 8 years! | 11:47 | |
| Voldenet | I agree they could've disabled the new ui to lower the cost | 11:50 | |
| unfortunately new reddit just does OOM for me, so I don't use it | 11:51 | ||
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| disbot | <antononcube> I don't think the Raku community would be targeted in this way, but just in case: | 13:16 | |
| <antononcube> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...8802b& | |||
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| disbot | <antononcube> BTW, this Raku post on Reddit's r/xkcd got ≈5.5K view and 16+ votes: www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/1xq...nd_charts/ | 13:24 | |
| <antononcube> *views | |||
| lizmat | ok, so the XKCD style is something Raku specific? | 13:26 | |
| disbot | <antononcube> The graphics use the Raku package "JavaScripdt::D3" that generates JavaScript graphics code (based on "D3.js"), and that JavaScript code is rendered in a Jupyter notebook, with a Raku kernel. | 13:27 | |
| <antononcube> For example: raku js-d3-spirograph(4/11, 13/3, :$background, :5stroke-width) ==> js-xkcd-modifier(roughness => 0.025, wobble => 12) | 13:29 | ||
| <antononcube> One can say that "JavaScripdt::D3" is just splicing and patching together JavaScript and SVG code. That is true, but the D3.js library is fairly low level, so, I would claim the solution is "Raku specific". | 13:31 | ||
| lizmat | understood | ||
| disbot | <antononcube> The sub js-xkcd-modifier decorates the JavaScript code made by js-d3-spirograph to have the XKCD look and feel. | 13:32 | |
| <antononcube> TBH, it is mostly a gimmick, but it does bring attention, and it is "cute enough" for showcases of what can be done with Raku graphics packages. | 13:33 | ||
| <antononcube> I am not sure does this XKCD modifier work with 3D graphics and/or graphics made with "JavaScripdt::Google::Charts". (I plan to experiment with those this week..) | 13:35 | ||
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| Voldenet | anything promoting raku especially outside of raku community is a good thing | 14:24 | |
| even if it only boosts recongizability | |||
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| Guest65 | Do methods always have an implicit *%_ ? Is there a way to suppress that behavior? | 14:36 | |
| This caught me off guard: | 14:38 | ||
| class C { | |||
| multi method one ( :$more ) { | |||
| say 'no b'; | |||
| evalable6 | no b | ||
| Guest65 | } | ||
| multi method one ( :$more, :$b ) { | |||
| say 'b'; | |||
| evalable6 | b | ||
| Guest65 | } | ||
| } | |||
| C.new.one: :more, :b; | |||
| # produces 'no b' | |||
| [Coke] | docs.raku.org/language/functions#A...signatures | ||
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| Guest65 | I think that is a separate case from my example? | 14:39 | |
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| [Coke] | ... I was answering the original question about implicit *%_, which isn't what the example is showing. | 14:41 | |
| ... Note that the order of the method definition impacts the answer. | 14:42 | ||
| Guest65 | Oh. | ||
| Yes, I saw that. I was under the impression that method definition order wouldn't matter. Is it documented? I don't need the link if it is(n't). Just asking for the moment. | 14:44 | ||
| [Coke] | Even if you make the named parameters in teh second one mandatory with !, the first one still matches first. | ||
| Guest65 | [Coke] thank you for explaining. | 15:17 | |
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| Voldenet | actually signature allows anything, but you can explicitly say | 15:39 | |
| m: class C { multi method one ( :$more, :$b where !*) { say "no b"; }; multi method one ( :$more, :$b ) { say "b"; }}; C.new.one: :more, :b; | |||
| camelia | b | ||
| lizmat | m: class A { A.^add_method("foo",sub foo(\self) { dd }) }; A.foo(:bar) # yucky way to get rid of *%_ | 15:42 | |
| camelia | Unexpected named argument 'bar' passed in sub foo at <tmp> line 1 in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| Voldenet | but it's not that yucky | 16:17 | |
| m: class C { multi sub one(\self, :$more) { say "no b" }; multi sub one(\self, :$more, :$b) { say "b" }; C.^add_method("one", &one) }; C.new.one(:more, :b); C.new.one(:more) | |||
| camelia | b no b |
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| Voldenet | it's not amazing, but I'd say not horrible | ||
| probably better than `$b where !*` | 16:18 | ||
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