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Geth ecosystem/main: 45030b4dcb | thundergnat++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Modules migrated to fez ecosystem
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leont guifa_: yeah, we don't really have a standard for "how old versions should you support". 02:59
I don't think a lot of people use distro supplied raku, so I guess not that long in practice, but I may be mistaken
guifa_ I've been doing two-ish years for when I, e.g., change the name of a module (to continue to `provide` under the old name) 03:00
leont I think I've been doing something similar, but it has varied with the module and the issue at hand 03:02
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Geth App-Rakubrew: 254bd09061 | Jasmin++ | Changes
Document master/main changes for moar-blead
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App-Rakubrew: 44b5db8d16 | Jasmin++ | 3 files
Version 32
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patrickb I was on a different computer. The above commits are authored by me. I really need to change the gitconfig. 09:56
Nemokosch Lol 😄 10:00
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Anton Antonov @patrickb Unfortunately, I doing that also… (Way too often!) 12:13
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Nemokosch :abloy: 13:16
tellable6 2022-12-24T15:22:41Z #raku-dev <MasterDuke> Nemokosch: any idea why the windows tests failed? can you force push to get them to rerun? i tried to rerun them from the PR, but it's too old and it won't let me
2022-12-24T15:24:24Z #raku-dev <MasterDuke> Nemokosch: btw, were you asking about Actions.nqp? i think it will eventually go away when rakuast fully takes over
Nemokosch had to try :D
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Homer_Simpson is there a way to print str from my @a = (["string1", "string2"]); but without using a method 18:33
i,e using operators
or if not can I just make a character array instead of using a string type 18:34
str from string1 18:36
I could do the retarded way but this doesnt work with a scalar: my @a = ('s','t','r','i','n','g','1'); 18:38
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Juerd Homer_Simpson: I don't understand your question. 18:53
Nemokosch same, kind of 18:54
Homer_Simpson I want to print str (for example from the string "string1"
Nemokosch so far so good, what next? 18:55
Homer_Simpson but without using .trim or any other method
Juerd Homer_Simpson: What do you mean by "print str"? 18:56
"string1" is a Str and you can print it
Homer_Simpson I want to print "stri" for example
Juerd Have a look at substr
Homer_Simpson or whatever
is it a method 18:57
Juerd m: print substr "string1", 0, 4
camelia stri
Nemokosch method, subroutine, whatever you prefer
Homer_Simpson ok that seems to work I guess 18:58
my @a = (["string1]); 19:01
print(substr(@a[0], 0, 4)); #fail
never mind
ok what if I wanted a raw array 19:02
Nemokosch by the way, ([]) is kinda paranoid. The outer () is not doing anything
Juerd Homer_Simpson: What is a "raw" array?
Homer_Simpson oh ok, im coming from perl 5 19:03
its a byte array
Juerd Raku has Buf for byte buffers
Nemokosch in fact, in this case, not even [] is really doing anything, iirc
the assignment takes care of all this 19:04
Homer_Simpson yes, It is just to make it obvious that its a single dimentional array
I wish raku could do [2][2], instead you gotta do [2;2] 19:05
ill try buf thx
Nemokosch Raku can do [2][2], what do you mean
one more thing: don't forget that [] is rather a way of conversion than "encapsulation" (or how to put it) 19:06
it's the comma that builds the list
Homer_Simpson I get an error saying "sorry multiple shapes not yet supported!" 19:07
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Nemokosch then there is something else off with the code 19:07
Xliff \o
Regarding NativeCall and C function pointers... could subsets be used to make them reusable? 19:08
Full disclosure: I am trying to revisit this: github.com/Raku/problem-solving/is...-489427474
Oh.. how rude of me. Merry Christmas, everyone!
Nemokosch: Here -> github.com/Xliff - that's the total of all of my Raku projects.
Homer_Simpson: Can we see what the problem code is? Generaly that means that you are trying to access an array in more than one dimension. 19:09
Nemokosch m: (1..10).batch(3)[1][2].say
camelia 6
Homer_Simpson my @a[2][2] = ([0,0],[0,0]);
Xliff Yeah.
m: my @a[2;2] = ([0, 0], [0, 0]); @a.gist.say 19:10
camelia [[0 0]
[0 0]]
Nemokosch but why would you do that on declaration...
Xliff Use a semicolon. Not another set of square braces.
Homer_Simpson same applies if I try and do print(@a[0][0]);
Xliff m: my @a[2;2] = ([0, 0], [0, 0]); @a[0;0].say 19:11
camelia 0
Nemokosch m: use v6.e.PREVIEW; (1..10).batch(3).snitch.[1].snitch.[2].say
camelia ((1 2 3) (4 5 6) (7 8 9) (10))
6
(4 5 6)
Xliff Nemokosch: That will always work, since you are using references for the extra dimension. 19:12
Nemokosch the order is a bit funky, I don't quite grasp this snitch method yet
anyway, it does work very apparently
Homer_Simpson maybe its my compiler
Nemokosch Xliff: I mean, is the goal that it don't work? :D 19:13
Xliff Nemokosch: No. That's not t he goal. It's just not completed, yet.
Nemokosch having said that, I don't see much value in shaped array declarations when you can just nest arrays 19:14
Xliff TIMTOWTDI
Nemokosch and it seems that people shared this opinion enough to always have greater priorities
Homer_Simpson yeah I tried nested arrays, those work 19:15
Xliff Nemokosch: I think the completed object will make column access easier.
Nemokosch what is "the completed object"?
Xliff m: (1..10).batch(3).map( *[1] ).say
camelia (2 5 8 Nil)
Xliff Yes, that's easy enough, but not as easy as [for example] "(1..10).batch(3).col(2)" 19:16
Or .col(1), really
Nemokosch It's probably not as easy on the runtime, either, as sequential access of elements... 19:20
This is sort of whataboutism but I would rather any optimisation on data structures before adding more sugar for expensive operations 19:21
(looking at you, Daniel :P)
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[Coke] i think shaped arrays can use more compact storage 20:16
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Voldenet Merry christmas #raku 22:01
smol-hors 🎄 🦋
MasterDuke i'm not 100% sure that shaped arrays do actually use more compact storage right now, but that is the idea 22:10
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