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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| ll8 | o/ | 10:49 | |
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| lizmat | ll8 o/ | 12:03 | |
| and yet another Rakudo Weekly News hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2025/01/20/2025-...-released/ | 12:59 | ||
| tbrowder | hi, i just spent too much debug time on a simple missing module requirement for another author's published module. the missing module was causing a core dump with no clues. is there any way that missing module can show a clue when its prereqs are missing? sneak a 'require' in there somewhere? | 13:05 | |
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| melezhik | . | 13:09 | |
| ll8 | hnk | 13:10 | |
| melezhik | patrickb not sure if you are interested as cro maintainer, but there is CI on sparky for cro-core, the benefit is tests under ARM Rakudo - sparky.sparrowhub.io/report/gh-cro...core/23255 | ||
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| s | 13:11 | ||
| lizmat | tbrowder: be sure to alert the author of said module by making an issue! | 13:17 | |
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| timo | tbrowder: simply a missing prerequisite should definitely not cause a core dump. can you be more specific? do you still have the dump files? | 13:30 | |
| antononcube | I strongly consider making a package for accessing TIGER data (Geographic data from US Census Bureau) : www.census.gov/programs-surveys/ge...guide.html | 13:39 | |
| lizmat | I'd be up for that if someone paid me to do that :-) | ||
| antononcube | What would be a good name for that package? Here are a few options: 1. Tiger 2. Data::Tiger 3. Tigeraku | 13:40 | |
| lizmat | Data::TIger I'd say | 13:42 | |
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| tbrowder | i will file an issue, but is using ‘require’ on the author’s side the easy fix? | 14:09 | |
| and i do have (or can recreate) the core dump file) | 14:10 | ||
| timo | i would be interested in seeing the core file. how did you get your moarvm? does it have debug symbols? actually, maybe it would be easier for me to reproduce the issue locally instead of bothering you with lots of little things i need from your machine, or changes i need you to do, or something like that | 14:15 | |
| tbrowder | got down to 24 deg f last nite in sunny nw fl. forecast tomorrow 35 hi with snow and low of 23. | 14:16 | |
| timo, my raku comes with the debian rakudo-pkg | 14:17 | ||
| when i used the mv2d i got nada but the core dump | 14:18 | ||
| timo | what is "the mv2d"? | 14:19 | |
| tbrowder | what’s easiest way to get dump file to you? | 14:20 | |
| mv2d is jnthn’s moarvm debugger module | 14:21 | ||
| timo | oh, the core dump happens only when using mv2d? | 14:22 | |
| there were some cases in the remote debugger that caused segfaults in the debugee, for example when you start it suspended, connect to it, and then ask it for a backtrace without first running any code, or stepping | 14:26 | ||
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| ZPMalarkey493401 | Hey guys... Joe Biden here. I've decided to step down from the White House to focus on other projects. Billionaires are a threat to democracy, so check out BidenCash.st to put them in the bullseye. Keep an eye on the CNN inauguration for a promo code! | 14:30 | |
| tadzik | pathetic | 14:31 | |
| tbrowder | no, it (core dump) happens when i execute my raku prog which uses the module which then dumps core | ||
| timo | OK. the raku prog in question isn't available publicly? | ||
| [Coke] | I have most irc notifications turned off, but I hope someone banned that scammer? | 14:32 | |
| timo | tbrowder: i sent you a private message on irc with a link where you should be able to upload the file | ||
| nah that user is still in the channel | 14:34 | ||
| tbrowder | no, but i could make it so. it’s an ugly mailing list and christmas card thing i started in perl and raw PostScript years ago. | ||
| timo | i don't have permissions to op myself in here it seems like | 14:35 | |
| tbrowder | but all you have to do is create a short prog to call PDF::Font::Loader and load a file. i’ll cobble something together shortly. | 14:37 | |
| timo | i might have done the file request link thing wrong | 14:38 | |
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| tbrowder | well, a simple prog is not enough. i’ll try the link and send the core dump when i get back to a real computer later today | 15:02 | |
| link looks like the real deal | |||
| timo | OK. with just the example code from the PDF::Font::Loader readme i can't get any segfaults | 15:04 | |
| if it were so easy to crash, i would imagine you couldn't even install the module since zef runs its test suite before installing | |||
| so what is the missing dependency anyway? | 15:05 | ||
| tbrowder | PDF::Content::FontObj; | 15:10 | |
| going to try the upload link... | 15:11 | ||
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| tbrowder | got the 1Gb core dmp gzipped down to 80 Mb | 15:31 | |
| timo | hehe. | ||
| yeah they are sometimes full of zeroes | |||
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| guifa | lizmat: re Locale::Dates you should be able to automatically generate a large number of locales if you use Intl::CLDR | 15:55 | |
| That way you won't have to wait for people to send in PRs | 15:56 | ||
| tbrowder | timo, no go yet. i’ll be home in 3 or 4 hrs with a real interface to push the file. | 16:01 | |
| timo | OK | 16:02 | |
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| [Coke] | ok, I think I got the ban right. | 18:51 | |
| lizmat | :-) | 18:58 | |
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| ramman | So if raku has to be compiled, does that mean you can't really do one-liners of it from the command line? | 21:06 | |
| timo | no you totally can | 21:09 | |
| there is "precompilation" where we store the result of compiling modules on disk, but you can just run scripts or one-liners like with -e | 21:10 | ||
| it's not like with C where you would "gcc foo.c" and then "./a.out" | 21:11 | ||
| ramman | Cool. Thanks. | ||
| timo | and there's the repl as well as a jupyter kernel | ||
| guifa | ramman these days too there's a bit of a gray area between compiled and interpreted languages. Many languages like python/javascript are in theory interprpeted but are compiled to intermediate states to speed things up, and sometimes fully JIT'ed when appropriate | 21:18 | |
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| tbrowder | timo, core.tgz is uploaded to yr link | 22:27 | |
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