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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
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wayland76 [Coke]: I've been using "zef --depends --build-depends --test-depends install ." and it installs the package as well. If I leave out the '.' it throws a usage message. The usage message indicates that the . is optional. 07:51
tellable6 2025-05-08T23:40:30Z #raku <japhb> wayland76 The --depends option, I believe
2025-05-08T23:58:13Z #raku <[Coke]> wayland76 zef install --deps-only .
wayland76 Oh, --deps-only -- I missed that comment. 07:52
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wayland76 Yeah, that works. Thanks! 07:55
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ab5tract Does anyone have experience building a modern PWA that is entirely intended to run on locally? 11:28
Or should I just stop fighting and use Electron? 11:29
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[Coke] ./win 13 13:04
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[Coke] kicked off a 3d print job with filament that is colored/textured like wood. 16:42
... it smells like a firestarter when printing.
is there actually *wood* in here? wtf.
coranila according to google, yes, wood filament contains 15% wood 16:44
tellable6 2025-05-08T09:31:04Z #raku <wayland76> coranila Thanks!
coranila kinda makes sense too; lignin and cellulose don't really mind the temperatures most FDM printers print at; inventing synthetic wood-likes seems harder 16:45
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melezhik weekly: sparrowdo.wordpress.com/2025/05/09...jobs-flow/ 18:10
notable6 melezhik, Noted! (weekly)
melezhik if someone would read this I'd appreciate any feedback ( typos, logical flaws, style improvements, whatever ) - thanks 18:11
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Voldenet ab5tract: I have and indexedDB is surprisingly good api 19:06
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Voldenet but electron apps don't suffer from many problems – they don't get suspended, they don't share thread with js scripts on other pages 19:08
if you design it well (with typescript's interfaces), you can share a lot of the code between environments 19:11
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melezhik. Also cross posted this to HN - news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43939889 , please vote if you like , thanks 20:10
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Xliff \o 21:22
Is anyone now using RakuAST in any of their own projects? 21:23
[Coke] 12 21:26
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Xliff [Coke] - You have 12 projects using RakuAST? 21:45
wayland melezhik: 2 problems. 1. The first paragraph in the Sparrow Integration section contains a run-on sentence. Either split into multiple sentences, or use other punctuation (semicolons, em-dashes), or both. 22:00
2. The text is pretty clear, but the diagram isn't. In the first diagram, I get the first line, but not sure what the rest are doing. 22:01
In the second diagram, it's not clear what all the parts inside "node i" are doing. Nor is it clear how the tasks relate to the Sparrowhub repo. 22:02
Might be worth asking an AI to turn them into UML SVG diagrams, and then see if they make sense that way.
(I mentioned UML because it's conventionalised, so it's easier to understand what's going on, since it's familiar) 22:03
Maybe tell the AI to ask you clarifying questions as well.
[Coke] Xliff: ww 22:04
wayland Xliff: Yes-and-no. I'm using the RakuAST branch because it fixes bugs that annoy me, but I'm not using the actual RakuAST for anything yet.
I tried building Signatures with it manually at one point, but ran into a bug doing that, and haven't gone back to it. 22:05
The Signatures effort was part of a Logic Programming idea that's probably 3rd or 4th on the list (after Table-Oriented Programming and Tree-Oriented Programming). 22:06
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Xliff weyland: So is signature creation still borked? 22:32
Because I would love a way to make reusable signatures for NativeCall function pointers. 22:33
Yeah... so why can't you use a Signature in a sub declaration? 22:37
m: use NativeCall; my $s = :(uint32, num64, Pointer); $s.^name.say; sub mySub ($s) { ... };
camelia Signature
Xliff That doesn't work because the original definition of $s is no longer in scope. 22:38
Hence my desire to see if I can get it working via RakuAST
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wayland Xliff: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5591 22:47
timo at the very least it would have to be a constant rather than a lexical variable
wayland I haven't tested in nearly a year now, so it may work.
I'd like to put Signatures on tables at some point (so that people can only push in correct data), but haven't gotten there yet. 22:49
Xliff Nope. Not fixed. 22:53
timo how are you trying to use it?
Xliff timo: Running the given code 22:54
timo ah, that is never going to work like that though
you're just declaring a sub that takes an argument and calls it $s
the $s in that spot isn't related to the $s from outside
Xliff Oh, I know that. I'm talking about weyland's from 5591
I'm thinking the only way my thing is going to work is if I send it through RakuAST. 22:55
Then I can feed the signature through the sub declaration nodes.
timo ah 23:02
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SmokeMachine m: say [1,2,3] ~~ [*,*,*] # if this is true... 23:18
camelia True
SmokeMachine m: say %(:bla("1"), :ble("2")) ~~ %(:bla(*), :ble(*)) # should this also be true? 23:19
camelia False
timo there doesn't seem to be a behaviour of ACCEPTS for Map - Map 23:23
m: say <bla ble> ~~ %(:bla(*), :ble(*)); 23:24
camelia True

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