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Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022.
SmokeMachine librasteve: github.com/FCO/Cromponent/pull/14 00:00
tellable6 SmokeMachine, I'll pass your message to librasteve_
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apogee_ntv lizmat: Thanks, do I just transfer it over? Wont changing author break things? 00:32
guifa: I added read (incl all 5 filters)/tExt metadata to Image::PNG::Portable. I plan to make Image::PNG::Native at some point with the same interface but it's libpng through NativeCall. 00:33
Though someone dropped a speed up PR so that might solve my issue (large image batches), who knows?
guifa okay people, bikeshedding time 00:34
my window class will have two special types of methods
one that represents a native-call-like javascript call into the webview
and the other represents a method that's callable *from javascript* (need to mark it because it will be installed with some special handling in the webview) 00:35
method foo is javascript { * } seems fine calling into the webview, but then the reverse isn't obvious. Thought about to-javascript and from-javascript but feel long, to-js is ironically too short. other thought was js-call (into js) and js-callable (from js) but they feel too similar 00:37
SmokeMachine is javascript and is callable-from-js? 00:39
will the methods with no trait work too?
guifa: 👆 00:40
guifa javascript and js-callable I think I'd do with that model, might work but I don't like the imbalance of js / javascript
methods with no trait are just normal class methods
SmokeMachine is using-js and is is-callable? 00:41
js-callable
ja-coded and he-callable
js-callable 00:42
js-coded
is using-js and is usable-by-js 00:43
apogee_ntv outbound-call and inbound-call? 00:47
foo is outbound-call (calling to JS), bar is inbound-call (callable from JS) 00:48
I would focus on whether you're calling out of or into the Raku app, not the language being called.
That seems like the higher order concern. 00:50
SmokeMachine js-native and js-accessible? 00:53
guifa: 👆 00:54
Good night everyone!
apogee_ntv gn 00:55
guifa hmm I I like outbound and inbound 00:56
and it's kind of true the language isn't super relevant, but I also want to be specific enough to avoid potential namesquating down the road (unlikely, but still, I try to future proof lol) 00:57
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guifa (sadly the traits are still not functional yet, still debating how I'm going to handle the bridge and what, if any, restrictions to place on it 01:34
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disbot3 <librasteve> SmokeMachine: I saw it (your merge) - tbh I am scared to try it. ;-) Need to make sure I have some runway in case something breaks... 06:07
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SmokeMachine librasteve: I plan to my next step to separate the component part from the template parte… that way it will be better to you to use, I suppose… 08:13
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SmokeMachine librasteve: you probably don’t need using Cromponent module anymore, you will probably want to change that to Cromponent::Traits (and Cromponent::MetaCromponentRole you already used) 08:24
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disbot3 <librasteve> thanks for the update ... I'm even more scared now ;-) 10:28
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disbot3 <librasteve> guess I'll need to do this before next formal release of Air::Components [checks pinning of deps] 10:31
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SmokeMachine librasteve: Cromponents have a big flaw (that’s the next thing I plan to fix) that is not being possible to change the signature of the generated routes… that way, it’s not possible, for example, to make an Cromponent only accessible for logged users… but before fixing that, I’m going to make it possible to pass attributes as part of the path… 12:12
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disbot3 <librasteve> yeah i am not there with auth yet, but one day soon … (ie the auth patter in the cro docs) … so its very helpful to have Cromponent get better under the hood … I can only consume changes at a certain rate though 12:27
<librasteve> i cross posted to r/htmx and got this comment >>> I went in with an open mind and was immediately slapped in the face with “class Todo does Component” and “method increment is controller”. I’m not sure I can get behind this syntax. 12:29
<librasteve> lol
<librasteve> here’s the post www.reddit.com/r/htmx/s/ZaJ0q41tA3 if anyone wants to go in and join the fun 12:31
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lizmat people complaining about readable syntax? what will they think of next? 12:34
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lizmat weekly: raku.land/zef:lizmat/SBOM::CycloneDX 12:55
notable6 lizmat, Noted! (weekly)
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SmokeMachine librasteve: because you plan to use Red, I need to cite it before I forget, but when playing with session, Cro (related or not to components) and Red, you may want to take a look at this: github.com/FCO/Cro-HTTP-Session-Red 14:04
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disbot3 <librasteve> .oO thanks! 14:31
<librasteve> (just starred it) 14:32
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librasteve_ notable6: weekly 15:27
tellable6 2025-07-07T00:00:39Z #raku <SmokeMachine> librasteve: github.com/FCO/Cromponent/pull/14
notable6 librasteve_, 3 notes: gist.github.com/13d191736d75330408...4f162f57db
tellable6 hey librasteve_, you have a message: gist.github.com/4a07e9c7fe18788521...7f19778cdc
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librasteve_ notable6: weekly reset 15:42
notable6 librasteve_, Moved existing notes to “weekly_2025-07-07T15:42:14Z”
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[Coke] disbot3 is the discord bridge, yes? 16:12
librasteve_ rakudoweekly.blog/2025/07/07/2025-...-language/ 16:24
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[Coke] wonders if anyone else misses going into the office a bit. 17:22
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Voldenet office is pain 18:16
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ugexe there is not a single thing i miss about going into an office. nothing. 18:31
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Voldenet Btw, geany getting raku is awesome news 18:37
when I open an editor and there's no raku hl built into it by default it makes me sad 18:38
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tbrowder has anyone tried geany in a shell terminal on a remote linux or macos host? 20:38
ab5tract Isn’t geany a GTK based editor? Are you asking about using X11 remotely? 20:41
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tbrowder yes 21:27
it has a —no-terminal option 21:30
just wondering…
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Voldenet X11 works very poorly on macos, wouldn't recommend 21:39
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Voldenet using vm with regular linux is the sanest option for anything related to x11, I've been on a long windows journey 21:40
and it's the same stuff, but without problems 21:41
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tbrowder ok, i'll pass on it for remote use... 21:49
guifa oooh 22:01
I just got the js to properly call into Raku code
still need to finish packaging things up to be a bit nicer though
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guifa is there a quick and dirty way to test if a method was declared with { * } ? 22:08
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guifa it seems like it's actually just an actual whatever there 22:09
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guifa m: class A { method a { * } }; A.a.WHAT.say 22:09
camelia (Whatever)
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