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| wayland76 | So I know we have/had backends for moarvm, jvm, and javascript. Have we ever considered partial backends, ie. whether parts of Raku could be compiled to SQL? | 00:44 | |
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| Voldenet | I wouldn't say that compiling ast to sql is a backend, more like a translation lib | 08:08 | |
| it's a good idea to have stuff like this overall, but it shouldn't built into compilers imo | 08:10 | ||
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| apogee_ntv | mi6 question, is there a RunBeforeBuild that just runs *once* on mi6 release? | 09:57 | |
| I have Selkie docs gen in RunBeforeBuild but it runs multiple times during a release and makes it tediously slow | 09:58 | ||
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| wayland76 | Voldenet: Agreed. Well, I think we should (eventually) have a standard querying lanugage built into Raku, but the compile-to-SQL option should be an addon. | 10:32 | |
| disbot | <melezhik.> Voldenet: would you like to try out my very alpha version of dsci git server ? | 10:51 | |
| <melezhik.> I already have something to show | |||
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| apogee_ntv | melezhik. Just saw your issue on Notcurses::Native and replied, I think you are on the most recent unsupported rakudo for NativeCall varargs syntax :) | 12:07 | |
| Looks like it was added in the changelog for 2025.12 | |||
| Your runner is on 2025.11 | 12:08 | ||
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| tbrowder | apogee_ntv: i'm looking at your run-before-build line. what is the %x supposed to do? | 12:55 | |
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| apogee_ntv | tbrowder: It's expanded to $*EXECUTABLE, in this case 'raku' | 13:02 | |
| Thats whats in the github docs so I copied it assuming its a preferred convention instead of hardcoding 'raku' | 13:04 | ||
| disbot | <melezhik.> Sure, will try with fresh Rakudo and let you know | 13:24 | |
| apogee_ntv | ty | 13:25 | |
| You did help me find a different bug with the precompiled binaries | 13:46 | ||
| It shouldn't have tried to fall back to native compilation for the shim | |||
| tbrowder | got it. no clue as to 3x build, but nice output anyway | 13:48 | |
| [Coke] | does class X { has $no-twigil } ... do anything useful? Should we make that a warning? | 14:01 | |
| Just spent 10m trying to figure out why my attribute wasn't getting set on instantiation. :) | 14:02 | ||
| tbrowder | apogee_ntv: have you tried having chapgpt analyzing that code for some kind of circular path? | 14:10 | |
| *ChatGPT | 14:11 | ||
| apogee_ntv | tbrowder: Claude thinks the issue is in mi6: "Easy, and the mi6 bug is structural: release calls build, and the RegenerateFiles + DistTest steps each call build again, so RunBeforeBuild fires 3×." | ||
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| tbrowder | yeah, mi6 does some complex stuff, @skaji might take the challenge if you file an issue. | 14:17 | |
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| apogee_ntv | I've been trying to look at release trains tbh, some of my packages are... a pain to release to say the least lol. The delay on things turning up in zef means the dependent package has to wait to run CI until it exists. I have packages with 3-4 levels of dependencies and sometimes I touch all of them. | 14:41 | |
| Notcurses::Native -> Selkie -> Any Selkie app for example, or LLM::Chat -> LLM::Data::Inference -> Consumer | 14:42 | ||
| Speaking of Selkie, pushing 0.13.0 with typed store. | 15:21 | ||
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| sp1983 | weekly: dsci.sparrowhub.io is alive - minimalistic Self Hosted Git Server + CI with general languages ( including Raku ), use this link as demo server | 17:26 | |
| notable6 | sp1983, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| sp1983 | ^^ Voldenet | ||
| everyone indeed is welcome to test it out - documentation is here - deadsimpleci.sparrowhub.io/ | |||
| so it can be installed in any Linux VM, as binary | 17:29 | ||
| to run CI all you need is docker or podman | 17:30 | ||
| one gets self hosted git server plus CI ( dsci ) | |||
| as a result | |||
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| disbot | <melezhik.> Example of git repo - dsci.sparrowhub.io/repo/demo-raku-cro.git | 19:05 | |
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| apogee_ntv | melezhik any luck with Notcurses? | 21:45 | |
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