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🦋 Welcome to the MAIN() IRC channel of the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Log available at irclogs.raku.org/raku/live.html . If you're a beginner, you can also check out the #raku-beginner channel! Set by lizmat on 6 September 2022. |
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| tbrowder | anyone have any experience with nixos running on debian? | 14:41 | |
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| ugexe | hmm, not sure im a fan of the docs site changing cntrl+f behavior to focus on the search bar instead of letting me use the browser search | 15:36 | |
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| librasteve | github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/358 | 15:46 | |
| github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues/344 | |||
| ugexe: join the queue | |||
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| ab5tract | librasteve, lucs, and to whomever else it may concern: R#5550 is now addressed :) | 16:37 | |
| linkable6 | R#5550 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/5550 [Fixed in RakuAST] Simple literal-only regex fails | ||
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| librasteve | ab5tract: awesome job ... very tricky and your explanation is clear and illustrates how these corner cases were not caught in over 6 years | 16:58 | |
| have you checked if there are other, similar conditions that could arise eg. is memcmp sometimes given 64-bit byte strings (this is just a guess ... but I think that we would like to be confident that similar, but different regex patterns are not going to trip over a closely related mechanism | 17:01 | ||
| coleman | ugexe: I agree. I kind of wish I'd pushed back against it more when it went in. Some people really like the shortcuts, but I think we can give them what they want, just not by default. My comments here: github.com/Raku/doc-website/issues...2068134677 | 17:02 | |
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| librasteve | amen to this ... To be honest, I don't think we should take over any key combos at all. | 17:03 | |
| coleman | GitHub does it in SOME UI views, like interactive code editors. They do it well. They also have billions of dollars and thousands of JavaScript devs lol | 17:05 | |
| librasteve | [don't mean to dump on innovation ... but in general you need to cover a LOT of corner cases for overrides like this to avoid user frustration ... eg iPads, touch in general, etc and on every browser / OS combo .... its doable for github with their deep pockets and resources ... btw they capture the '/' key for search and not the ctrl-f] | 17:07 | |
| coleman | they use '/' in most views, yea. And while i never use it, it doesn't get in my way. They take over Ctrl+F here...Another feature I rarely use github.com/Raku/doc-website/edit/m...ANGELOG.md | 17:10 | |
| (interactive editing) | |||
| But anyway, your point stands. | |||
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| librasteve | getting brainfade ... what s the right way to test for true/false in a when statement? | 17:29 | |
| lizmat | when 42.so { } | 17:30 | |
| when 42.not { } | |||
| librasteve ^^ ?? | |||
| librasteve | aha! thanks! | ||
| lizmat | m: when ?42 { } | 17:31 | |
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| lizmat | m: when !42 { } | ||
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
| lizmat | shorter versions | ||
| librasteve | .oO | ||
| lizmat | inspired by the error message | 17:32 | |
| m: when True { } | |||
| camelia | Potential difficulties: Smartmatch against True always matches; if you mean to test the topic for truthiness, use :so or *.so or ?* instead at <tmp>:1 ------> when ⏏True { } |
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| librasteve | m: given 1,1 {when ?,? {say 'yo'} } | 17:33 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 4===SORRY!4=== Er… | ||
| Raku eval | Exit code: 1 ===SORRY!=== Error while compiling /home/glot/main.raku Prefix ? requires an argument, but no valid term found. Did you mean ? to be an opening bracket for a declarator block? at /home/glot/main.raku:1 ------> given 1,1 {when ?⏏,? {say 'yo'} } expecting any of: prefix | ||
| evalable6 | librasteve, Full output: gist.github.com/8592cd0ab86ace2943...1354134378 | ||
| lizmat | m: dd (1,1) | 17:34 | |
| camelia | (1, 1) | ||
| lizmat | m: dd (1,1).^name | ||
| camelia | "List" | ||
| lizmat | m: given 1,1 { say .^name } | 17:35 | |
| camelia | List | ||
| librasteve | m: given 1,1 {when ?$,?$ {say 'yo'} } | ||
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 4===SORRY!4=== Er… | ||
| Raku eval | yo | ||
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| evalable6 | librasteve, Full output: gist.github.com/68f96db36d0ddf8178...a464d9b1fd | 17:35 | |
| librasteve | discord bot swallows _ | 17:36 | |
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| ab5tract | librasteve: thanks for that feedback, it's much appreciated. I strived to match the expectations you mentioned (irclogs.raku.org/raku/2024-04-15.html#11:09), since I've felt the same about previous bugs (and this one too) | 18:29 | |
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| ab5tract | re: your question, thankfully this codepath is well-protected from non-32-bit sized characters | 18:31 | |
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