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github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at irclog.perlgeek.de/moarvm/today Set by moderator on 2 May 2018. |
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| moderator | github.com/moarvm/moarvm | IRC logs at irclog.perlgeek.de/moarvm/today | ||
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| Geth | MoarVM: df91ba76d0 | (Bart Wiegmans)++ | src/spesh/dump.c [Spesh] Don't leek CUUID/name ASAN would complain bitterly about this |
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| brrt | good * | 08:17 | |
| i have a new problem for y'all | |||
| a mysterious JIT fail that only fails when MVM_SPESH_BLOCKING is false | 08:18 | ||
| AlexDaniel | squashable6: next | 08:25 | |
| squashable6 | AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 1 day and ≈1 hour (2018-05-05 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
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| brrt | hmm, it maybe, hopefully, entirely my fault | 10:01 | |
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| AlexDaniel | samcv: is updating en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoarVM part of the release process? | 12:51 | |
| if not, maybe it should be | |||
| “Stable release 2017.02” | 12:52 | ||
| that's not even 2018 | |||
| jnthn | Is this scripted as part of the Rakudo release process? If so, can we just nab the code? | ||
| Also, "stable release" doesn't exist. We just have (monthly) releases. | 12:53 | ||
| AlexDaniel | there's no code, I did attempt to automate it but never finished it | ||
| NeuralAnomaly also doesn't have it I think | 12:54 | ||
| brrt | wow, that page is out of date | ||
| nwc10 | xkcd.com/386/ | 12:55 | |
| jnthn | :) | ||
| I wonder if we can be considered not notable enough, and thus problem solved? :P | 12:56 | ||
| AlexDaniel | I'm surprised that it's not deleted yet… | 12:58 | |
| nwc10 | but then how do you know if a project is "special biologist word for stable" or alive, if there is no Wikipedia page observing it? | 12:59 | |
| AlexDaniel | Categories: Stub-Class Computing articles | Low-importance Computing articles | ||
| :) | |||
| nwc10 | where "alive" is "under active development" but I coudln't see how to allude to dead/alive with both terms substituted | ||
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| nwc10 | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoarVM | 13:01 | |
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| nwc10 | gets a " may not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for products and services" whist en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_virtual_machine does not | 13:01 | |
| lizmat has at least updated the release info | 13:09 | ||
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| nine | "However, Rakudo on the Java Virtual Machine is still faster for longer running programs." [Citation needed!] | 13:11 | |
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| lizmat | hehe once it runs, I guess that's probably still true for some value of"longer" :-) | 13:14 | |
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| brrt | implmeenting getlexcaller in the jit blows up :-( | 14:59 | |
| jnthn | :( | 15:03 | |
| brrt | yeah, and its not quite obvious why | 15:04 | |
| jnthn hopes his SEGV in the spesh plugin mechanism will turn out to be more obvious | 15:08 | ||
| brrt | oh, it is more obvious than i thought :-) | 15:12 | |
| i should've expected a NULL and returned a VMNull if so | 15:13 | ||
| hang on, res->o is a deref, innit? | 15:15 | ||
| jnthn | yes | ||
| brrt | good :-) | ||
| jnthn | Well yeah, mine was silly. Used unsigned ints where shoulda used signed :P | ||
| brrt | at what point, i sometimes wonder, do we actually start blaming the programming language | 15:16 | |
| Geth | MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 6cb9624a5e | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | src/spesh/plugin.c Use unsigned ints in binary search |
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| brrt | jnthn: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/c-run...ce/bsearch | 15:22 | |
| or 'man bsearch' | |||
| Geth | MoarVM: 1ef4aaf736 | (Bart Wiegmans)++ | tools/jit-bisect.pl [jit-bisect.pl] spesh bisect is 1-based We'd request a log for a frame just one after the one that was supposedly broken. |
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| MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 0f52872be2 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | 6 files Aggregate spesh plugin resolution statistics |
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| jnthn | Yay, now - at last - nearly at the point where the magic happens. :) | 15:54 | |
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| samcv | AlexDaniel`: ah that sounds like a good idea | 16:16 | |
| so we need some pages to cite so moarvm becomes notable | 16:17 | ||
| also However, Rakudo on the Java Virtual Machine is still faster for longer running programs. << i want this line removed | |||
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| lizmat | samcv: done | 16:23 | |
| samcv | also since we are developers. we could always write a blog post. and then can site it and it's a notable citation because a developer of the project wrote it :) | 16:25 | |
| though that won't do for proving that moarvm itself is notable. just that what we say can be true about the project | |||
| timotimo | i don't think that's how that works | 16:27 | |
| samcv | really? | 16:28 | |
| timotimo | i think notability requires "other people" to write about you? | ||
| samcv | hmm | ||
| yeah that's what i mean | |||
| timotimo | well, core devs aren't "other people" :) | ||
| samcv | i mean developers writing something could be ok for citing some facts about moarvm | ||
| but we'd need some outside article to show that moarvm is notable | |||
| timotimo | what we need is someone to interview one of us :P | ||
| unless that is me, in which case there should be two people being interviewed | 16:29 | ||
| because i tend to get stuff wrong :P | |||
| (like how wikipedia works) | |||
| lizmat | news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7806723 | 16:30 | |
| something that comes up for me in a google search | 16:31 | ||
| Geth | MoarVM/pluggable-spesh: 4138b806c4 | (Jonathan Worthington)++ | src/spesh/facts.c Analyze spesh plugin guard indices for stability Currently we don't do anything with that determination, but this is what will allow us to carry on and rewrite the instruction and add guards. |
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| lizmat | www.josetteorama.com/all-about-perl...rt-1-of-3/ | 16:38 | |
| jnthn | dinner & | 16:39 | |
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| samcv | lizmat: i added a citation to that article now | 17:18 | |
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| Geth | MoarVM/make_builds_reproducible_again: 6899b0a172 | (Stefan Seifert)++ | 2 files Serialize hashes sorted for more reproducible builds |
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| brrt | good * | 20:55 | |
| Geth | MoarVM/jit-moar-ops: 6 commits pushed by (Bart Wiegmans)++ | 21:26 | |
| lizmat | whee! | ||
| brrt | i can run make test only after running make realclean on rakudo. | 21:29 | |
| hmm | |||
| lizmat calls it a night | 21:31 | ||
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| timotimo | yay, MVM_JIT_SPESH_SLOT_VALUE! | 22:11 | |
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