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This channel is intended for people just starting with the Raku Programming Language (raku.org). Logs are available at irclogs.raku.org/raku-beginner/live.html Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022. |
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| ab5tract | apogee: cool! thanks for contributing this :D | 07:48 | |
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| disbot3 | <apogee> ab5tract You're welcome, I'm planning to contribute a lot hopefully, at some point I'll jump on IRC again too. I wouldn't mind having a look at optimizing Rakudo/MoarVM once I'm more familiar with the language. | 08:57 | |
| <apogee> C is my comfy language. 😄 | |||
| <librasteve> @apogee very cool … much better than my puny efforts raku.land/zef:librasteve/Definitely (which i did mainly as a learning exercise) | 09:15 | ||
| <librasteve> i would be interested to see someone who knows what they are doing with monads improve on this rakujourney.wordpress.com/2024/10/...-burritos/ | 09:17 | ||
| <librasteve> also note @masukomi was original author on Definitely and definitely knew what they were doing better than me | 09:20 | ||
| <librasteve> oh - sounds like your the ideal person to implement tail recursion in moarvm (nothing in the raku spec prohibits this aiui | 09:21 | ||
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| disbot3 | <apogee> You did something way better than me though: supporting typing. I should add that at some point. | 09:56 | |
| <apogee> Either without typing doesn't work that well | |||
| <apogee> I'd use a state monad to represent this, not a maybe. | 10:11 | ||
| <apogee> pl my $m = Monad::State(...) $m >>= &addLettuce >>= &addSourCream >>= &addSalsa >>= &addBeans >>= &addCheese >>= &addBeef; $m->get(); # Monad::State(val='sub...' state='Burrito with beef, cheese, beans, salsa, sour cream & lettuce') | 10:15 | ||
| <apogee> The main thing here is you have a bunch of 'pure' functions which lead to side effects (sounds paradoxical but it's not, it treats state as just a data transformation and you handle the IO at the edges). | 10:20 | ||
| ab5tract | apogee: intriguing.. why does the ingredient list in ‘state’ have a different t ordering than the function calls? | 10:25 | |
| disbot3 | <apogee> Oh, would depend how you implemented it, I imagine state just being a list/array. | 10:28 | |
| <apogee> So in this case it's just prepending to the list. | |||
| ab5tract | Ah, my brain was in append mode apparently | 10:29 | |
| disbot3 | <apogee> But it could also be a hash right? { protein: cheese: ... } | ||
| <apogee> Or even a class. | |||
| <apogee> State can be anything | 10:30 | ||
| <antononcube> I am not sure why so “many” people want to implement their own monadic pipelines in Raku, and not just learn and use forward feed. (Or backward feed.) | 11:27 | ||
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| disbot3 | <apogee> Easy learning experience | 13:43 | |
| <apogee> I learn by writing code. Implementing in a new language and then making it more idiomatic. I understand monads so there's no domain friction. | 13:45 | ||
| <apogee> It's all language friction. | |||
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