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Set by lizmat on 8 June 2022.
Geth rakudo: ugexe++ created pull request #6244:
RakuAST: skip compile-time trial-bind for type-capture generics		 00:16
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Geth ¦ rakudo: coke assigned to timo Issue Crash of Rakudo 2026.05 Linux binary github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6231 00:56
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Geth rakudo/main: 97175283b7 | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
RakuAST: re-resolve `Call::Name` at CHECK to pick up a forward `sub`

  `Call::Name::PERFORM-BEGIN` resolves the call's name against the
resolver's lexical chain. A `my`-scoped `sub foo { }` declared later in the same scope is hoisted to the start of that scope, but the hoist happens at parse time of the declaration, which is *after* the call's BEGIN-time pass. The call therefore resolved against an ... (17 more lines)		 10:35
rakudo/main: dde1224e5c | (Nick Logan)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
RakuAST: skip compile-time trial-bind for type-capture generics

  `RakuAST::Call::Name::PERFORM-CHECK` walks the call's arguments and
trial-binds them against the resolved routine's signature. Each argument's `return-type` is collected, then `nqp::p6trialbind` decides whether the call could ever match.
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timo ok, so the zef version of JSON::Fast hasn't shown up on raku.land and since `zef search` doesn't find it I assume it's also not on 360.zef.pm either 11:44
Geth setup-raku/update-dependencies: bcb7776a2f | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | 3 files
Update npm dependencies

Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com>
setup-raku/update-dependencies: c2ce07a600 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | 4 files
Tighten TypeScript configuration

Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com>
lizmat timo: indeed 11:46
Geth setup-raku: 47fd7fe884 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 6 files
Update npm dependencies (#55)

  * Update npm dependencies
Co-authored-by: Codex <267193182+codex@users.noreply.github.com>
  * Tighten TypeScript configuration
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setup-raku: a8b3750352 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | CHANGELOG.md
v1.12.0
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timo anything we can do? 11:51
lizmat I've pinged tonyo but no success yet :-(
I guess we give it another 24 hours before starting to think about alternatives 11:52
timo for right now i can also still upload JSON::Fast's latest version to cpan 11:56
Geth setup-raku: b6140a4d15 | (Shoichi Kaji)++ | README.md
use actions/checkout@v6 in README
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lizmat timo: we've waited a long time for a JSON::Fast update... we can wait a little longer ? 12:05
timo tom seemed very upset about the lack of json fast update to fix the deprecation notice the other day
lizmat well.. we're all volunteers 12:12
sometimes people forget that 12:13
timo .o( I'd do paid moarvm development if there were a willing payer )
ab5tract timo: there's a grant process for that, no? 13:28
lizmat it is my understanding that there are no more funds for Raku grants with TPRF 13:31
and the Raku Foundation is not yet in a position to be even thinking about providing grants
disbot4 <librasteve> to get more $$$ and more helpers, we need to grow. to grow, we need to attract coders. to attract coders we need a reason to try Raku. DSLs are a reason to use Raku. thus slangify.org ;-) 13:35
guifa re funds, I normally donate the equivalent value of my ticket to TPRF, this year I can probs match it and earmark for Raku 14:24
tellable6 2026-06-01T21:29:09Z #raku <tonyo> guifa what timezone are you in?
guifa tonyo: eastern
tellable6 guifa, I'll pass your message to tonyo
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FritzZaucker @timo About rakudo/rakudo#6231 You ask about reaching you directly. I am here, but not really familiar with IRC. So not sure this will work all that well, but I am willing to try. Email would also work for me. 14:43
linkable6 RAKUDO#6231 [open]: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6231 Crash of Rakudo 2026.05 Linux binary
timo oh there you are
FritzZaucker :-)
timo cool, if you trust that it's really me, we can just open a DM right here on IRC, I'll open one right now 14:44
FritzZaucker I think @lizmat would warn me if you weren't :-)
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lizmat I would :-) 16:18
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lizmat github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/6246 20:09
Syntax for my %h is QuantHash dirties the sentinel set()/ bag() / mix() values
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ab5tract lizmat: so those recent funding announcements were coded as Perl and Raku but are in fact earmarked entirely for Perl? 20:34
lizmat I don't know: I have been told that there's no money earmarked for Raku anymore at TPRF 20:36
I'm surprised there is a perlfoundation.org/raku-development-fund.html ? 20:37
feels to me that they forgot to take that away? 20:38
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[Coke] worth asking the treasurer what the status is. 21:00
(though with the con coming up soon, I expect she's swamped)
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