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jmerelo releasable6: status 06:14
releasable6 jmerelo, Next release will happen when it's ready. There are no known blockers. 248 out of 451 commits logged (⚠ 9 warnings)
jmerelo, Details: gist.github.com/60f8b0e33379f96a27...6b4ded115f
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El_Che hi jmerelo 09:30
weekly: new rakudo-pkg support (and packages) for new releases: ubuntu 19.10, Fedora 31, centos 8 09:32
notable6 El_Che, Noted! (weekly)
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xinming_ SmokeMachine: How do we do soemthing like UPDATE SET table column = (column + 1) Just passing the SQL "column + 1" directly? 10:07
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SmokeMachine Model.^all.update: { .column += 1 } 10:34
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xinming_ SmokeMachine: Do you plan to add something like passing SCALAR ref which is like perl5 to underline db? in DBIx::Class, people can pass literal sql directly. 10:51
SmokeMachine xinming_: I've never though about that... but I'm not sure if I like it... 10:52
Ulti imho you're better off with a Text or SQL object for that sort of thing 10:54
rather than relying on hacky implied behaviour from something utterly unrelated like pass by reference
plus you can write a slang or something to hijack `` quoting to construct that object, thats what I have in my bioinformatics libraries where strings in `GCTA` get promoted to bio sequence objects 10:55
SmokeMachine Ulti: yes, that would make more sense... 11:00
xinming_ m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h := { :a, :b } does HashStr; "{%h}".say; 11:06
camelia sdf
in method Str at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
xinming_ m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h = { :a, :b } does HashStr; "{%h}".say;
camelia a True
b True
xinming_ In this example, How can we keep the "HashStr" role accross passing?
jnthn Bind, not assign. 11:07
Oh, you did bind
xinming_ SmokeMachine: I don't like it either, But it does save time when we needed.
jnthn Well, you can't, because assignment is a copying operation
e.g. it iterates the RHS
And copies into an (already existing) LHS
xinming_ jnthn: I do did bind, What I mean is, How can we keep the "HashStr" role when we passing that object around.
jnthn xinming_: If you mean passing it to another routine, then it will be retained, because arguments are bound (unless `is copy`) 11:08
xinming_ Or, We can set the "Hash" class when we declare the hash object.
What I mean is, soemthing like, my %h is HashStr = { ... }; 11:09
jnthn Oh, you can do that
m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h does HashStr = { :a, :b }; say %h.Str
camelia Potential difficulties:
Useless use of hash composer on right side of hash assignment; did you mean := instead?
at <tmp>:1
------> 3f"; } }; my %h does HashStr = { :a, :b }7⏏5; say %h.Str
in method Str at <tmp> line 1…
jnthn m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h does HashStr = :a, :b; say %h.Str 11:10
camelia sdf
in method Str at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
jnthn Like that.
Doc_Holliwould m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h = :a, :b; say (%h but HashStr).Str 11:11
camelia sdf
in method Str at <tmp> line 1
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
xinming_ But that results error
Doc_Holliwould or like that :)
m: role HashStr { method Str () { say "sdf"; } }; my %h = :a, :b; say (%h but HashStr).Str
camelia sdf
Doc_Holliwould because of the `die`
xinming_ jnthn: The my %h does HashStr is what I want, It's just I failed to try that.
jnthn OK, cool :) 11:13
xinming_ m: role HashStr { method Str () { die "sdf"; } }; my %h does HashStr := { :a, :b }; say %h.Str; 11:15
camelia a True
b True
xinming_ This example worked, Is it because, the %h with HashStr role is bound to { :a, :b }?
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xinming_ I think so. 11:18
jnthn Yes, it's because you totally throw away the object on the left in that case.
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ZzZombo m: my $a := 1;my $b := $a;$a := 2;dd $a;dd $b 12:00
camelia 2
ZzZombo m: my $a := 1;my $b := $a;$a = 2;dd $a;dd $b
camelia Cannot assign to an immutable value
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
tyil .tell jmerelo can you accept my request to join the outreach ML with my personal email address? 12:01
tellable6 tyil, I'll pass your message to jmerelo
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xkr47 installing rakudo star 2019.03! 12:13
I want to see if I can replace my bison/yacc time calculator with something new in 30 mins :)
am I too 1990 if I use emacs to code raku? does any editor have syntax hilighting yet? 12:15
===> Testing: LWP::Simple:ver<0.106>:auth<github:perl6> 12:19
# Failed test 'Found pattern in downloaded file'
xkr47 discovers p6doc 12:29
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xkr47 oo coloured parsing erros 12:31
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xkr47 nope, did not manage to do that in 30 minutes :D 12:48
but it parses numbers, timestamps and variable names now :)
sooo my recursive grammar is eating 100% 12:56
kensanata xkr47: M-x list-packages still lists perl6-mode and flycheck-perl6... 12:59
xkr47 I seem to lack the gpg sig to verify the list of packages :P 13:00
kensanata, thanks
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xkr47 10 mintues later it parses "5 * (a - 3) / -foo" 13:01
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kensanata xkr47: If you haven't updated in a few months, you will have to download the keyring manually. Did you figure it out? 13:11
xkr47 no, I'm going black & white for now :D
kensanata xkr47: Hah. Also feel free to join #emacs... :)
xkr47 ;)
I've been using emacs for over 20 years now, but I never used M-x list-packages *blush* 13:12
kensanata I made the change not too long ago. :D
xkr47 wow @ '%' modifier in regexes 13:19
it's like BNF 2.0! :D :D
and now my grammar recognizes a = b = 5 + c 13:24
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SmokeMachine xinming_: I was wrong… this is the way of doing that… but infix:<+> is not implemented yet and doing that without a WHERE clause is giving an error… both will be fixed tonight... www.irccloud.com/pastebin/bnZOPXOs/ 13:56
Kaiepi releasable6, status 13:57
releasable6 Kaiepi, Next release will happen when it's ready. There are no known blockers. 248 out of 451 commits logged (⚠ 9 warnings)
Kaiepi, Details: gist.github.com/a2c16afa8c21d07d39...69bdee6fcf
xkr47 kensanata, elpa.gnu.org/packages/gnu-elpa-key...pdate.html 13:59
but still can't find those 14:01
raku should have called the regex operators "ahead" and "behind", not "before" and "after" 14:04
soo somebody introduce me to what these "「" "」" things are 14:12
.. shown when I "say" things 14:13
[Coke] u: 「
xkr47 from regex captures
unicodable6 [Coke], U+FF62 HALFWIDTH LEFT CORNER BRACKET [Ps] (「)
[Coke] basically, "fancy quotes" 14:14
m: say 「 this is a {3+2} quoting construct 」
camelia this is a {3+2} quoting construct
xkr47 yes.. so are they emitted from regex capture objects or
[Coke] it's the quote we happened to choose when stringifying matches. 14:15
xkr47 great
so "are" matches also strings?
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[Coke] matches are objects. 14:15
one sec. 14:16
xkr47 okay, how do I use them as strings without getting the quotes? :)
[Coke] docs.perl6.org/type/Match
xkr47 🙇‍♂️ 14:17
sena_kun xkr47, just stringify, `.Str` or `~`
m: say ('1234' ~~ /\d/).Str;
camelia 1
sena_kun m: say ~('1234' ~~ /\d/)
camelia 1
LtStaffel Hello all, I'm having trouble with making an HTTP get request with Cro. Using this code pastebin.com/LDGTen54 devours my system's entire 8GB of memory in a minute or less. Making a head request works, and removing the await keyword gives the proper promise. What should I do to test further?
[Coke] m: '1234' ~~ /\d/ ; say $/; dd $/ ; say ~$/ 14:18
camelia 「1」
Match $/ = Match.new(list => (), hash => Map.new(()), pos => 1, from => 0, made => Any, orig => "1234")
xkr47 ooh dd, my new friend
sena_kun LtStaffel, can you grab the latest version from the cro-http repo and try with it?
xkr47 soo ~ makes a string out of it without the fancy quotes? 14:19
[Coke] ^^ shows the .gist of a match, a data dump, and then the stringified version, off the implicit match object. sena_kun's show it against the in place match.
sena_kun zef install github.com/croservices/cro-http.git
[Coke] xkr47: the fancy quotes are part of the .gist method.
LtStaffel sena_kun: Sure, be right back
[Coke] it's intended to make a human readable output.
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[Coke] the .Str (or ~ prefix) return the string match itself. yes. 14:20
xkr47 ok will understand that later :)
[Coke] er, the "matched string" is a clearer way to say that.
xkr47 I was ref to ".gist"
[Coke] say uses .gist, which isn't necessarily the same as .Str 14:21
m: my $a = 1234; say $a; say ~$a;
camelia 1234
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[Coke] m: my $a = ^1000; say $a; say ~$a; 14:22
camelia ^1000
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[Coke] ^^ for simple stuff, it's usually teh same. for objects, it may not be.
LtStaffel sena_kun: What was the command again?
sena_kun zef install github.com/croservices/cro-http.git
LtStaffel, ^?
should install latest
LtStaffel Thanks 14:23
sena_kun jnthn promises a new release with some very important fixes (that might eat RAM too) included this or next week
xkr47 [Coke] so raku still retaining some of that mysteriousness of perl5 huh :D 14:24
LtStaffel sena_kun it's testing, I'll let you know as soon as I can run the script again 14:25
xkr47 listens to yagya.bandcamp.com/track/the-phantom-of-us while learning raku.. good times :)
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LtStaffel sena_kun that works now, thanks! Any idea what more specifically was the issue? 14:29
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LtStaffel zef complained about it cro already being installed, so it didn't seem to think it was out of date 14:29
sena_kun LtStaffel, there was a bug, it was fixed, but not yet "released"... no version bump, so zef thinks it's the same version, but when you -force it, new commits are working and all's good 14:30
LtStaffel ah okay
xkr47 what does ":D" in documentation mean, "defined" ? 14:45
[Coke], just found ".gist" in docs.perl6.org/type/Mu :) 14:46
sena_kun xkr47, `defined` is a method (and may be used as a routine too), while `:D` sets a type constraint 14:47
"something that is a value, not a type object", while `:U` is "undefined" == "something that is a type object, not a value", and omitting it means both.
xkr47 `fail` apparently also is undefined 14:48
return types døn't seem to specify constraints? 14:50
sena_kun how so? 14:54
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patrickb LtStaffel: Can you document your findings here? -> github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/1501 15:13
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Wahnburger Hello, I just installed rakudo on a windows server .. I copied a script which is running well on a openbsd box..on windows Ill get this error: Server certificate verification failed: unable to get local issuer certificate 15:22
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Wahnburger i am using Cro to post a request to get a bearer token.. can someone tell how to look to get it fixed? 15:23
or is there a way to disable the certificate verification? 15:25
lizmat Wahnburger: perhaps someone on the #cro channel would have a solution more readily availlable 15:29
Wahnburger most of the guys are also here :) 15:34
i am wondering whether i need to tell perl6 something about ssl?..path ..something like that? 15:35
lizmat sorry, da bin ich überfragt :-( 15:37
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Wahnburger same thing on windows7 :/ 15:52
this line wont work: my $resp = await Cro::HTTP::Client.get('www.perl6.org/'); after a normal installation of perl6 on windows 15:53
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xkr47 Wahnburger, what are the symptoms? 16:01
(I have no idea of the answer, just helping you bring forth the needed details for others to help :) 16:02
Wahnburger symptom is "Server certificate verification failed: unable to get local issuer certificate " 16:03
stuff like curl is working well wit hhttpS 16:04
timotimo i feel like this could go on stackoverflow, i think i just recently saw someone else ask
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Wahnburger did it: stackoverflow.com/questions/586477...ws-machine 16:35
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lizmat Wahnburger: changed tag to raku, as that is what we're moving to :-) 16:55
Wahnburger thx :) 17:00
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Wahnburger that drives me crazy...other httpS stuff is working 17:08
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tony-o Wahnburger: does this command fail or pass: openssl s_client -connect httpbin.org:443 17:20
does it connect and you can type `GET /get?x=42 HTTP/1.0` followed by two enter key strokes ? 17:21
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Wahnburger yep 17:28
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Wahnburger so it does connet..shows the certificate (validation OK) etc.. 17:30
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SmokeMachine xinming_: done... 18:38
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holli Wahnburger: Did you force install IO::Socket::Async::SSL? 19:39
I'm just wondering because its tests fail on my Win10 box
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SmokeMachine just 1 more test to Red:api<2> 20:05
If some one would like to review/test/fix it: github.com/FCO/Red/pull/402 20:06
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Geth_ doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #3078:
Place C<> around operator and types
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SmokeMachine all tests passing for Red:api<2> 21:30
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El_Che is there still useful to stay in #perl6 (eg to help new people) or have all the links been changed to this channel? 23:08
lizmat has just left #perl6 and #perl6-dev permanently 23:28
AlexDaniel just move, yes 23:37
El_Che will do that, thx 23:46
brass Happy Halloween :^) 23:51
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