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Xliff_ my my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a = s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ $/[0] }"; $a.say 00:01
m: my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a = s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ $/[0] }"; $a.say
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Variable '$a' is not declared
at <tmp>:1
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camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context.
Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.
(Any)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
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camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context.
Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.
(Any)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Xliff_ m: my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; my $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a = s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ 1 }"; $a.say
camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context.
Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.
(Any)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Xliff_ m: my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; my $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a = s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) ';' $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ $/[0] }"; $a.say
camelia Use of uninitialized value of type Any in string context.
Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.
(Any)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
Xliff_ m: my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; my $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a ~~ s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ 1 }"; $a.say 00:03
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### /usr/include/blah/blorp.h
unit package Blah::Blorp
Xliff_ m: my $hf = "/usr/include/blah/blorp.h"; my $a = "unit package Blah::Blorp"; $a ~~ s[^^ ( 'unit package ' <[ \w : ]>+ ) $$] = "\n\n### { $hf }\n{ $0 };"; $a.say
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### /usr/include/blah/blorp.h
unit package Blah::Blorp;
Geth doc: kjpye++ created pull request #3092:
Change link for Math::Constants to point to the top of the repo.
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ZzZombo lizmat: great, now I'm happy again. ;) 00:55
tellable6 2019-11-17T21:57:06Z #raku <lizmat> ZzZombo github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/ed8f5141fe
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Geth doc: c14f5e2d96 | (Stoned Elipot)++ | doc/Type/Method.pod6
Fix preposition
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Geth doc: 565f07df04 | (Kevin Pye)++ | doc/Language/math.pod6
Change link for Math::Constants to point to the top of the repo.

Previously this pointed into the "pulls" area, which could be confusing for git or github neophytes.
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doc: 49813fff75 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/math.pod6
Merge pull request #3092 from kjpye/math

Change link for Math::Constants to point to the top of the repo.
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Geth doc: Kaiepi++ created pull request #3093:
Document Metamodel::Documenting
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lizmat Xliff: self is *always* decontainerized. having \SELF: as the invocant, make sure that it is *not* decontainerized 08:30
Xliff: in ZzZombo's example, the subst-rw needed access to the invocant's container
Xliff: because Any.ASSIGN-POS was decontainerizing, it tried to change the immutable string in it, which fails 08:31
Xliff: you can work around this for earlier, unfixed versions by adding an ASSIGN-POS method to the StrIdx role 08:33
Geth doc: 7e90dd91d9 | (Ben Davies)++ | 2 files
Document Metamodel::Documenting

This also makes "documenting's" and "metarole" valid words.
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doc: 410f7215fd | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 2 files
Merge pull request #3093 from Kaiepi/metamodel-documenting

Document Metamodel::Documenting
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pmurias [Coke]: hi 09:29
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Altreus SmokeMachine: seems to work! 11:33
I got a «false» in my JSON :)
SmokeMachine Altreus: :)
Altreus Does it work if it doesn't have a type? Or is there a default type? 11:35
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SmokeMachine Altreus: sorry, what do you mean? 11:46
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Altreus SmokeMachine: I mean, is it OK if «$!attr.type.^name» is ... you know, Any, or Mu, or whatever? 11:54
I don't recall whether it's required for a column to have a data type
(in code) 11:55
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Altreus Maybe it defaults to Str 11:55
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Kaiepi m: class Foo { my atomicint $next-index = 0; has Int:D $.index = $next-index⚛++ }; say Foo.new.index; say Foo.new.index; say Foo.new.index; 15:45
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Kaiepi m: class Foo { my atomicint $next-index = 0; has Int:D $.index = $next-index⚛++ }; BEGIN say Foo.new.index; BEGIN say Foo.new.index; BEGIN say Foo.new.index;
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
An exception occurred while evaluating a BEGIN
at <tmp>:1
Exception details:
5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling
Lexical with name '$next-index' has wrong type. real type 8 wanted type…
Kaiepi there are other ways to deal with what i'm trying to do with $!index, but is there a bug here? 15:47
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[Coke] pmurias: oops. 16:04
[Coke] digs up last email thread with pmurias 16:05
[Coke] gets back on track. 16:10
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ab6tract p6: class Foo { my $next-index = 0; has Int:D $.index = $next-index++ }; BEGIN Foo.new.index.say; BEGIN Foo.new.index.say 16:51
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ab6tract Kaiepi looks like a bug to me
japhb ab6tract, Kaiepi: I use that same idiom in one of my modules; precomp doesn't break it, but I haven't tried BEGIN time within the same module yet (I only create objects in that class at runtime). 16:54
ab6tract yeah BEGIN is not a context i would expect much utility from for this kind of singleton stuff, to be honest. but the fact that it compiles with regular but bails with atomic does seem to point to a hidden issue 16:57
japhb: also, nice to see you! how have things been? 17:00
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ab6tract jnthn: is the issue Kaiepi flagged perhaps a compilation order issue somehow? 17:03
jnthn ab6tract: Well, I guess, but it's not like it's going to preserve the value of a lexical over the compilation boundary anyway; that only happens if it's closed over. 17:05
So even if it worked it'd still not really work.
ab6tract fair enough :)
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jnthn But yeah, it's worth reporting 17:06
Kaiepi aight
jnthn 'cus I guess it'd show up in some other context somehow
ab6tract they usually do :(
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El_Che still more people on #perl6, mm 17:35
Altreus more like #denial 17:45
mspo who can do the forward 17:46
El_Che mst? 17:50
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cxreg cj: hey bud 18:10
I forget, did I do something with MySQL? 18:11
oh wow, like 9 years ago :D 18:13
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cxreg cj: did you ever figure that out? 18:17
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cj cxreg: nopers 18:49
have you ever gotten DBIish to work at all?
Looks like Salvador Oritz and Rob Taylor have been doing not too distant historical commits. 18:50
trying to build from f359c84f93dfd69ce9cd5533204a3a895f4dfe2e 18:51
[DBIish] # Connect failed with error DBIish: DBDish::mysql needs 'mysqlclient', not found 18:52
sudo apt-get install default-libmysqlclient-dev
[DBIish] # DBIish: DBDish::mysql needs 'mysqlclient', not found
but it's installing, so maybe it worked this time. 18:53
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El_Che cj: don't keep us in suspense 19:17
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cj I'm not trying to! 19:18
I brought up a VM to do this development on so I don't break my workstation
El_Che :) 19:19
cj right now, the vm can't start ...
Nov 18 11:16:53 raku systemd[1]: mariadb.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
gee, that's super useful.
running the mysqld myself manually launches the db no problem. 19:20
El_Che systemctl status mariadb
journalctl -xv
cj Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Mon 2019-11-18 11:16:53 PST; 3min 28s ago
the line above was from journalctl -xv
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cj Process: 32203 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/install -m 755 -o mysql -g root -d /var/run/mysqld (code=exited, status=127) 19:20
[Coke] has a long running bot on a MOO server called CJ, so I keep going "ah, what's the bot doing" 19:21
[Coke] waves at cj. 19:22
mspo wow a MOO
cj hello Mr. Coke
mspo [Coke]: is it called Mu ? :) 19:23
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[Coke] hURLS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LambdaMOO 19:39
mspo: that server has been up since I was in college, so late 80s/early 90s 19:40
lizmat And another Rakudo Weekly hits the Net: rakudoweekly.blog/2019/11/18/2019-46-guidance/ 19:43
mspo [Coke]: I believe it 19:45
[Coke]: I knew a few MUD survived but MUSH and MOO were pretty rare even back then
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mspo MUDs were the only part of the internet that I liked when I first got on 19:50
BBS were better otherwise ;)
cj looks like installing a new systemd fixed it. I've loaded my schema and am now getting an error on connect 19:53
my $dbh = DBIish.connect('mysql', :socket</var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock>,:database<grammar>, :user<grammaradm>, $password); 19:54
Too many positionals passed; expected 2 arguments but got 3
MasterDuke cj: maybe try `:$password` 20:02
cj $ echo $? 20:03
0
thanks, MasterDuke!
MasterDuke np 20:04
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[Coke] For me, BBS were junior high, MUDs were college. (High school was probably AOL) 20:28
cj ICQ in HS for me. 1455395 is me 20:29
but IRC throughout. Probably just the last year of middle school, though.
oh, I guess it was "junior high" for me, too. I switched from Poulsbo Middle School (PMS) to Kingston Junior High (KJH) in my ninth grade year, so I collectively refer to 7th-9th as either MS or JH. Life's so complicated. 20:31
[Coke] the MOO/MUD in college were because that clique hated early 90s IRC. 20:33
(and were coming off a mainframe chat app)
cj anyhow, here's some mysql failure to get your mind off of that... 20:34
gist.github.com/cjac/3f6c306381e7a...82382a3481
the connect succeeds, but not the ... is it a do()...?
no, it's a prepare() 20:35
DBIish: DBDish::mysql needs 'mysqlclient', not found 20:43
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cj maybe it has something to do with the rename of the client libraries in recent releases of debian? 21:19
is it looking for a .a or a .so there? 21:20
same error changing mysqlclient to mariadbclient:
gist.github.com/cjac/466fee33bd105...685c6b0984
anyone know what `NativeLibs::Searcher.at-runtime()` is? 21:21
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cj is it looking through dynamic libraries or static libraries? 21:36
ah. I needed to put libmariadb.so.3 in there instead of mysqlclient or mariadbclient 21:38
yes. Now it's working. My schemes are coming to fruition... 21:39
gist.github.com/cjac/97177ebedfbbf...2f5f806aec 21:43
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Xliff cj: Heh. Now try Red. 22:10
cj Xliff: yeah, I'm looking at it now 22:11
Xliff :)
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cj are there tools to auto-generate the raku code from the database schema? 22:25
Xliff No, but I was working on something like that. 22:26
cj okay. I'm trying to create a model for typed feature structures and grammars which use them
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cj these feature structures use inheritence, so maybe RDBMS are not the best way to model them... 22:27
web.stanford.edu/group/cslipublica...2603.shtml
but whatever. I think I can make inheritence work with triggers and views
Xliff See: github.com/Xliff/perl6-Parser-Sql 22:29
Not it's not even close to being finished.
cj here's the schema definition in case you want to use it as an example :-) 22:30
github.com/LLC-Technologies-Collie...master/sql
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Xliff m: IO::Spec::Unix.new.say 23:09
camelia IO::Spec::Unix.new
Xliff m: IO::Spec::Unix.splitdir("/a/b/c").say
camelia ( a b c)
Xliff m: IO::Spec::Unix.splitdir("/a/b/c").elems.say
camelia 4
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