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| tbrowder | AlexDaniel: thnx for the link to Damians article, lots of vaguely documented grammar stuff therein explained. | 00:16 | |
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| Geth | ecosystem: 6a7d2e2ffe | 0racle++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Add Point to ecosystem See github.com/0racle/raku-Point |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Point (0.0.2) by 03ELCARO | 03:42 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! LibXML (0.2.3) by 03WARRINGD | 04:39 | |
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| xkr47 | tbrowder, yeah sorry tombstone; I never used it in writing before and misspelled it.. | 05:06 | |
| tbrowder, but thanks :) | |||
| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Point (0.0.3) by 03ELCARO | 05:26 | |
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! File::Stat (0.0.2) by 03ELCARO | 06:00 | |
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| jmerelo | Do you want to know everything about tripcodes? Read about it in today's calendar entry by sena_kun rakuadventcalendar.wordpress.com/2...tripcodes/ | 06:17 | |
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| jjatria | I'm having a hard time understanding how (List) ~~ (List) is supposed to work, and the meaning of (List)|(List) | 09:16 | |
| In particular, this behaves sort of how I expected it to | |||
| m: say (1, 2) ~~ (1, 2) | |||
| camelia | True | ||
| jjatria | But this doesn't | ||
| m: say (1, 2)|(1, 2) ~~ (1, 2) | 09:17 | ||
| camelia | any(False, False) | ||
| jjatria | I also tried this, but it didn't help | 09:18 | |
| m: say (1) ~~ (1); # as expected? | |||
| camelia | True | ||
| jjatria | m: say (1)|(1) ~~ (1); # not sure why this is different | 09:19 | |
| camelia | any(True, True) | ||
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| CIAvash | jjatria: (1) is not a list, it's just an Int | 09:35 | |
| I could be wrong but it seems in the case of `(1, 2)|(1, 2) ~~ (1, 2)` it's looking at object identity | 09:36 | ||
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| CIAvash | m: say (1, 2)|(1, 2) eqv (1, 2) | 09:37 | |
| jjatria | CIAvash: FWIW, it does work if I put the Junction on the right | ||
| camelia | any(True, True) | ||
| jjatria | Oh | 09:38 | |
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| CIAvash | Yes being left and right is important, it depends on how the ACCEPTS method is implemented: docs.raku.org/routine/ACCEPTS | 09:42 | |
| lizmat | one of the lessons from smart-match in Perl: it cannot be symmetric | 09:43 | |
| (and afaik Perl's smart-match is/was) | |||
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| jjatria | Ah, that makes more sense now that I read docs.perl6.org/type/List#method_ACCEPTS | 09:46 | |
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| mscha | m: 1233455561223.comb(/(.) $0*/).say; | 10:08 | |
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| mscha | m: 1233455561223.comb(/(.) {} $0*/).say; | 10:09 | |
| camelia | (1 2 33 4 555 6 1 22 3) | ||
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| mscha | m: 1233455561223.comb(/ \d+ % <same> /).say; | 11:10 | |
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| Xliff | m: say "abc" ~~ /<:xdigit>/ | 12:20 | |
| camelia | Nil | ||
| Xliff | m: say "abc" ~~ /<xdigit>/ | ||
| camelia | ｢a｣ xdigit => ｢a｣ |
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| Xliff | m: say "abc" ~~ /<xdigit>+/ | ||
| camelia | ｢abc｣ xdigit => ｢a｣ xdigit => ｢b｣ xdigit => ｢c｣ |
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| camelia | (timeout) | 12:21 | |
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| awwaiid | Why does Set.new((0, 0),(1, 1),(1, 0)) (&) Set.new((0, 0),(1, 1),(1, 0)) give me back set() ? Looking for pairs that belong to each set | 12:48 | |
| lizmat | m: dd (1,2).WHICH | 12:49 | |
| camelia | ObjAt.new("List|57745184") | ||
| lizmat | Lists are not value types, so none of the lists match, therefore an empty set as a result | ||
| see github.com/perl6/problem-solving/issues/135 | 12:50 | ||
| also: modules.raku.org/dist/Tuple:cpan:E.../Tuple.pm6 | |||
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| awwaiid | thanks lizmat, just as I suspected | 12:53 | |
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| unclechu | hey, the Raku github account still has github.com/perl6 (/perl6) address | 13:37 | |
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| moritz | such things are slow to change | 14:11 | |
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| AlexDaniel | unclechu: the logo suggests to visit /Raku :) | 15:09 | |
| unclechu: github.com/Raku | |||
| unclechu: some repos are already moved, the rest will be transferred soon, there are still a few things to figure out before we can do it | 15:10 | ||
| AlexDaniel` | you can help, too! Let me know if you're interested | ||
| AlexDaniel | moritz: honestly I simply didn't have enough time to work on it :( | 15:13 | |
| current problem is how to invite all perl6 members to raku | 15:14 | ||
| I'm not doing that for 300+ people by hand | |||
| so I have to write a script… | |||
| unclechu | sry, i don't have time right now too | 15:15 | |
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| pmurias | lizmat: I fixed nqp::radix(_I) on the jvm | 15:37 | |
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| uzl[m] | sena_kun++ for today's article. I left a comment in the Reddit post with some questions: old.reddit.com/r/rakulang/comments...s/f9n01lp/ | 15:55 | |
| BTW, is there a channel for the Comma IDE?! | |||
| sena_kun | uzl[m]: no such channel, but I'm here. :) | 15:57 | |
| uzl[m]: thanks for your comments, it seems that wordpress ruined the code. :( | |||
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| uzl[m] | Sure. Regarding Comma, I just wanted to make sure where to ask questions if I had any down the line ;-)! | 16:04 | |
| sena_kun | uzl[m]: here, ping me or jnthn, but better me. :) | ||
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| uzl[m] | sena_kun: In fact, I had a question the other day. I use Vim and something that I noticed with Comma is that whenever I leave its window by moving to another workspace, I've to click on it in order to enable the cursor back and input text. With Vim, if I'm in Insert mode I can move back and forth and I can always input text without having to click its window. | 16:16 | |
| I've never used IntelliJ-based IDEs so I'm not sure if this is some behavior inherent to them or because of my system since I'm using a tiling window manager. | |||
| sena_kun | uzl[m]: I am having it too for plain idea right now, so it is intellij thing. using i3. | ||
| uzl[m] | Oh, I see. Thanks! | 16:18 | |
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| Xliff | \o | 16:22 | |
| Does Raku interoperability tools for Active Directory | |||
| s/Raku/Raku have/ | |||
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| AlexDaniel | weekly: Thanks to unclechu++ for a reminder, there's now a configured Matrix community for Raku: +raku:matrix.org . Feel free to join it (let AlexDaniel know if you need an invite) | 17:22 | |
| notable6 | AlexDaniel, You're welcome! | ||
| AlexDaniel | weekly: (there was one named “Perl6” before, so it's part of renaming progress) | 17:23 | |
| notable6 | AlexDaniel, Noted! (weekly) | ||
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| tbrowder | hi, all. there are some theme changes coming on the raku advent site to make it look better, but be patient, jmerelo has his hands full at moment. | 17:36 | |
| in the meantime, he has discovered we now have the ability to change the site's domain name if we want to (but probably not until earlier than mid january)! | 17:39 | ||
| any comments on a rakuadvent name change to something like "advent.raku.org" or "christmas-advent.raku.org" or similar? | 17:41 | ||
| jmerelo | tbrowder: I think that we can do both. Any *.raku.org can be a simple redirect, but with the plan you've purchased, you can get raku-advent-calendar.org for free, I think. | 17:42 | |
| sena_kun | m: say :42foo; | 17:49 | |
| camelia | Unexpected named argument 'foo' passed in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1 |
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| sena_kun | hmm... | ||
| ah | |||
| m: say (:42foo); | 17:50 | ||
| camelia | foo => 42 | ||
| sena_kun | ^ in this form of pair literal, only int literals are supported? | ||
| inb4: just look it up in Grammar | |||
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| tbrowder | jmerelo: the plan's free domain is only for the first year, then another fee annually, but probably less than $20 depending on TLD. | 18:00 | |
| jmerelo | tbrowder: right. I don't what will happen to the customization if you stop paying, though. | ||
| chloekek | p6: my $ü = 1; say $u¨ | ||
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Variable '$u' is not declared at <tmp>:1 ------> 3my $ü = 1; say 7⏏5$u¨ |
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| tbrowder | not planning to, but only God knows. i would like to get TPF support. but first let's see of this plan gives enough css and font flexibility. | 18:02 | |
| so, a separate issue: if the Raku community wants to change names for the advent site, what new name shall it have? | 18:05 | ||
| tobs | weekly: ^ last note was an addendum to: Thanks to unclechu++ for a reminder, there's now a configured Matrix community for Raku: +raku:matrix.org . Feel free to join it (let AlexDaniel know if you need an invite) | 18:12 | |
| notable6 | tobs, Noted! (weekly) | ||
| tobs | AlexDaniel: see github.com/perl6/whateverable/issues/371 :) | ||
| jmerelo | tbrowder: let's be totally original. raku-advent-calendar.blog | 18:13 | |
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| tbrowder | .blog TLD costs $23.88 /yr after first year cost of $9.88 at namecheap.com | 18:24 | |
| we could use existing name to get "advent-calendar.raku.org" | 18:25 | ||
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| lelf | Hi. Is there a shortcut for « make $/<smth>.made »? | 18:41 | |
| lizmat | $<smth>.made # aka, lose the slash ? | 18:43 | |
| cspencer | i’m trying to do some binding to an external c++ library, but am having some challenges and am getting the following message: “Don't know how to mangle symbol 'tensor::dim' for library 'libtorch.so.3'” | 18:45 | |
| does anyone know how to resolve the symbol mangling error? | |||
| lelf | lizmat: ok. -1 char. what to do with the rest 17? :) | 18:46 | |
| lizmat doesn't know of any further shortcut | |||
| maybe someone else does | |||
| cspencer | i’ve been following: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/mast...mangling.t | ||
| which seems to indicate that i can use nativeconv('thisgnu') to specify a mangling convention, but it doesn’t appear to be working | 18:47 | ||
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| hythm | .ast instead of .made # one less char | 18:51 | |
| tellable6 | 2019-12-02T22:45:53Z #raku <lizmat_> hythm thanks for the headsup, fixed! hythm++ | ||
| lizmat | hythm: yeah, but yuck | 18:52 | |
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| lizmat | imo, this is not about the AST, but about what you made with "make" | 18:52 | |
| .ast is a bad name, imo | 18:53 | ||
| hythm | right | ||
| tadzik | most of the time you don't make() an AST | ||
| well, unless you're writing a compiler :) | |||
| lizmat | right | 18:54 | |
| hythm | but its an alias to .made, if i understand correctly | ||
| tadzik | .made is a "new" name | ||
| lizmat | even the original name of .ast :-) | ||
| tadzik | oh, it is? :) | ||
| lizmat | no, I meant .ast is the original name :-) | ||
| oops | |||
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| xkr47 | is there a cruìâ tool to convert perl5 to perl6 ? :D | 19:19 | |
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| AlexDaniel | squashable6: status | 19:21 | |
| squashable6 | AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in 1 day and ≈8 hours (2019-12-07 UTC-12⌁UTC+20). See github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Mont...Squash-Day | ||
| sena_kun | releasable6: status | 19:24 | |
| releasable6 | sena_kun, Next release in ≈16 days and ≈23 hours. There are no known blockers. 0 out of 98 commits logged (⚠ 457 warnings) | ||
| sena_kun, Details: gist.github.com/5c13d2275ecd991985...d4045e1d8e | |||
| AlexDaniel | sena_kun: I've just cleared the changelog draft: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/ChangeLog-Draft | 19:25 | |
| releasable6: status | |||
| releasable6 | AlexDaniel, Next release in ≈16 days and ≈23 hours. There are no known blockers. 0 out of 98 commits logged (⚠ 457 warnings) | ||
| AlexDaniel, Details: gist.github.com/26227d2cee788dfb03...323eb04cd8 | |||
| AlexDaniel | … ok it always takes a minute for releasable6 to catch up | ||
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| xkr47 | what might be wrong when in intellij I get "xxx is not defined" for a lot of basic subs like print, exit, die... | 19:44 | |
| "Subroutine exit is not declared" | |||
| sena_kun | xkr47: you mean Comma? | 19:45 | |
| xkr47 | yes | ||
| sena_kun | xkr47: 1)try to re-open project; 2)are you using 2019.11? | ||
| 3)ensure the sdk is set | 19:46 | ||
| xkr47 | 2019.10.0 | ||
| 1) did not help 3) sdk is set | |||
| (v2019.03.1) | 19:47 | ||
| sena_kun | 2019.11 has a cool fix in this area, afaik... Also, invalidate cache? | ||
| xkr47 | how? | ||
| ah file menu | |||
| sena_kun | yup | 19:48 | |
| xkr47 | just upgraded to intellij idea 2019.3 | ||
| invalidation fixed! | |||
| sena_kun | \o/ | ||
| xkr47 | thanks !! | ||
| yeaah now I get nice refactoring suggestions | |||
| `if $o.defined {` -> `with $o {` | 19:49 | ||
| sena_kun | \o/ | ||
| xkr47 | I'm making a "jq" kindof tool that instead runs a supplied perl6 script | 19:50 | |
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| xkr47 | input: string/yaml/json, same output alternatives | 19:50 | |
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| xkr47 | I had it for perl5 already, now I try to force myself to learn perl6 with a new version of the script :) | 19:51 | |
| sena_kun | xkr47: good luck! | ||
| xkr47 | thanks | ||
| or alternative I ask here :D | |||
| sena_kun | that's a nice option too. ;) | 19:52 | |
| lelf | p6: given [42] {when :(Int $x) {note $x}} # is there a way to make this work? | 20:00 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| lelf, Full output: gist.github.com/6bd3a73bcbf2d8ca1c...e376d35ba3 | |||
| sena_kun | m: given [42] {when :(Int) {note $_ }} | 20:03 | |
| evalable6 | [42] | ||
| lelf | I don't want [42], I want what is matched by $x | 20:10 | |
| sena_kun | lelf: what are you trying to achieve? | 20:12 | |
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| lelf | e. g. cases on empty list / 1-element list / many-element list | 20:17 | |
| MasterDuke | m: given [42] { when *.elems == 0 { say "empty" }; when *.elems == 1 { say "1-elem" }; when *.elems > 1 { say "many-elem" } } | 20:23 | |
| evalable6 | 1-elem | ||
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| lucasb | if it fits the problem, it could alternatively be written as some multis with different arity | 20:26 | |
| lelf | MasterDuke: ... I asked how to do it with signatures | 20:28 | |
| lucasb | ':(Int $x)' doesn't introduce a new variable $x in the scope. IIUC, it's just a parameter name | 20:29 | |
| MasterDuke | hm, dunno | 20:30 | |
| lucasb | m: say [1,2,3] ~~ :($x,$y,$z) | ||
| evalable6 | True | ||
| lucasb | it matches, but I also dunno how to get those values :) | ||
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Date::Calendar::CopticEthiopic (0.0.1) by 03JFORGET | 20:42 | |
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| sena_kun | goodness, the wordpress editor is beyond horrible | 23:00 | |
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| lizmat | sena_kun: the old or the new one ? | 23:24 | |
| tbrowder | sena_kun: how do you create and enter your posts on wp? | 23:32 | |
| sena_kun | lizmat: both... | 23:34 | |
| lizmat | I guess :-) | ||
| sena_kun | tbrowder: doing a github gist, then using script to obtain html, then paste raw html into editor | ||
| tbrowder | it may be too late for this year, but i'm working on a semi-CLI method that might help. zoffix's script was a good start, but it looks to me that WP does things behind the scene (with php) that can cause trouble depending on the actual markup. did you ensure paras were single lines? probably so. | 23:36 | |
| sena_kun | tbrowder: I did | 23:37 | |
| I mean, it is just that it unescaped some characters that WERE escaped. but let other escaped characters be fine. which made the code broken, of course, because syntax... | 23:38 | ||
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Sanity (0.0.1) by 03UGEXE | 23:41 | |
| tbrowder | yeah, escaping in the gist round trip is weird i think | 23:45 | |
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