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kshannon Is there a way to call a method of the parent class from inside a different method? 00:04
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kshannon I'm writing a subclass of Proc that wraps both .shell() and .spawn() and I would *REALLY* like to be able to call Proc.spawn from my wrap implementation of .shell 00:06
I'm hoping there's some kind of syntax for the perl5 `$self->SUPER::method(...)` 00:09
I've read all about callwith etc, but they only work with the currently executing method. 00:10
I'm guessing it's going to involve some metamethods. 00:12
pilne me again! as someone currently stuck in win10 if i want to give comma a whirl (and an environment i'm not nearly as comfy as in linux to dick around with things more complicated than"system path" in) will i be making my life noticably more difficult using the rakudo-pkg latest and greatest compiler 00:18
vs using rakudo star 2019.03?
elcaro kshannon: I'm not an expert, so this is possibly the wrong way to go about it, but this seems to work... 00:19
kshannon: method bar { self.^parents[0].^find_method('foo').(self, $args) }
as an example of calling Parent.foo from Child.bar 00:20
kshannon Thanks elcaro. That will do for now. 00:21
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vrurg kshannon: if you're still around, you're probably looking for class-qualified calls: self.Foo::method(...) 02:20
kshannon I should have tried that :) 02:21
I didn't see it anywhere in the docs :(
vrurg kshannon: it's a bit hidden, right. Look in Operators section.
method call ops
docs.perl6.wakelift.de/language/ope...thodop_.:: 02:22
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pilne so, i went all-out, i did the rakudo-pkg on an 18.04 ubuntu wsl, and rakudo star with comma in win10 (: 02:33
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pilne is there a good rule of thumb for "temp" vs "let"? 03:05
elcaro pilne: see the docs here: docs.perl6.org/language/variables#...emp_prefix 03:29
essentially, `temp` always restores the old value at the end of a block... `let` only restores the old value if the block exits unsuccessfully
so it depends on your needs. that said, I've never used either *shrug* 03:30
but maybe that's because I try to re-assign variables as rarely as possible 03:31
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jmerelo releasable6: status 06:27
releasable6 jmerelo, Next release in ≈8 days and ≈12 hours. There are no known blockers. 0 out of 260 commits logged
tellable6 2019-12-12T07:58:23Z #raku <Kaiepi> jmerelo, did you get my messages yesterday?
releasable6 jmerelo, Details: gist.github.com/6e99822241b8602de4...5141150649
jmerelo .tell Kaiepi I don't think so, sorry.
tellable6 jmerelo, I'll pass your message to Kaiepi
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jmerelo .tell Kaiepi hope it's not you can't make it for the Advent Calendar today... 06:51
tellable6 jmerelo, I'll pass your message to Kaiepi
jmerelo Today's advent calendar compares Raku and Rust, by tmtvl: rakuadventcalendar.wordpress.com/2...little-rr/ Check it out! 06:53
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chloekek p6: my &slurp-file = *.IO R∘ { .slurp } 09:30
camelia ( no output )
chloekek p6: my &slurp-file = *.IO R∘ { .slurp }; say slurp-file(‘/dev/null’);
camelia Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Callable but got IO::Path (IO::Path.new("/dev/null", :SP...)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
chloekek p6: my &slurp-file = { .slurp } ∘ *.IO; say slurp-file(‘/dev/null’); 09:31
chloekek Why does it not work with reverse composition?
I suspect it has to do with the use of Whatever?
p6: my &slurp-file = { .IO } R∘ { .slurp }; say slurp-file(‘/dev/null’); 09:32
chloekek Seems like it. I wonder whether this is due to ambiguity, because it’s not really clear what the scope of * should be in this case (and it seems to include the composition in the *-created function). 09:33
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chloekek Perhaps operators should have a trait that tells Whatever whether to include them or not. Then for higher-order operators such as ∘ it won’t. 09:41
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mscha enum Direction (:LEFT(-1), :NEUTRAL(0), :RIGHT(1)); say Direction(2 <=> 3); 10:11
evalable6 (Direction)
mscha enum Direction (:LEFT(-1), :NEUTRAL(0), :RIGHT(1)); say Direction(+(2 <=> 3));
evalable6 LEFT
mscha Annoying. 10:12
chloekek ‘’ are neat because you can put them inside single quotes in Bash, for raku -pe :D
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sarna mscha: file an issue, that's definitely LTA 10:23
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Kaiepi . 12:04
tellable6 2019-12-11T17:40:53Z #raku <jmerelo> Kaiepi I'm around, or you can contact me via Telegram or email, double the initial j, and add gmail.com
2019-12-13T06:27:52Z #raku <jmerelo> Kaiepi I don't think so, sorry.
2019-12-13T06:51:58Z #raku <jmerelo> Kaiepi hope it's not you can't make it for the Advent Calendar today...
Kaiepi .tell jmerelo, resent the draft through email
tellable6 Kaiepi, I'll pass your message to jmerelo
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Geth advent: Kaiepi++ created pull request #44:
Add draft for the 14th's article
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Geth advent: 27773ec1da | (Ben Davies)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2019/drafts
Add draft for the 14th's article
advent: 944a1bb907 | (Tom Browder)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | raku-advent-2019/drafts
Merge pull request #44 from Kaiepi/patch-4

Add draft for the 14th's article
tbrowder .ask Kaiepi yr draft advent looks pretty good to me. can you go ahead and put it on the wordpress site and schedule it for 0001 UTC on 14 Dec? 13:07
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to Kaiepi
tbrowder that would take the heat off me as backup ;-D 13:08
Kaiepi aight 13:09
tbrowder and you can always update it as needed if necessary, even after it is published! (moritz++) 13:10
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patrickb m: my $k; my $x = 'asdf'; $x ~~ s[(sd)] = {$k = $0; "hey"}; say $x; 13:55
camelia Block object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
patrickb m: my $k; my $x = 'asdf'; $x ~~ s[(sd)] = &{$k = $0; "hey"}; say $x; 13:56
camelia Block object coerced to string (please use .gist or .perl to do that)
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1
patrickb Beginner question: How do I make the above just call the block? Alternatively, is there a better way to do a substitution combined with saving the matches somewhere? 13:58
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El_Che patrickb: got your message, I have no problem renaming the package. Just very busy atm (helping daughter with her exams) 14:00
patrickb El_Che: OK. Then I'll persue that path. Thanks for the feedback! 14:01
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jnthn m: my $k; my $x = 'asdf'; $x ~~ s[(sd)] = ($k = $0; "hey"); say $x; 14:22
camelia asd heyf
jnthn oh, right
m: my $k; my $x = 'asdf'; $x ~~ s[(sd)] = { $k = $0; "hey" }(); say $x;
camelia aheyf
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jnthn patrickb: ^^ 14:23
patrickb jnthn: Thanks! :-D 14:24
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socomm Getting following error when running perl6 on fedora "Unhandled exception: While looking for 'ModuleLoader.moarvm': no such file or directory at <unknown>:1 (/usr/lib64/perl6/runtime/perl6.moarvm:<dependencies+deserialize>)" 14:37
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moritz socomm: do you get that error even if you run an empty script? like perl6 -e '' 14:44
socomm moritz, yes. 14:45
guifa2 Hrm, somewhere between the md-to-advent and wordpress's publishing feature some of my stuff gets mangled for the advent post.
Also the code block text size is way too large, any quick fix? I noticed other posts have smaller code text size 14:46
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moritz socomm: then your installation is hosed 14:48
did you install through the package manager? 14:49
socomm Yep. 14:50
moritz then you should report a bug to whoever supplied the packages 14:52
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socomm thx 14:55
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tbrowder .tell jmerelo day 14 is on wp site as draft looking good. i'm traveling next 3 days and ceasing full-speed work on backup, looking to flesh it out more as backup for day 20. if needed earlier let me know asap. 15:02
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to jmerelo 15:03
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guifa2 tbrowder: what did you do fix the text size in code blocks? 15:17
tbrowder guifa2: i did nothing explicit. jmerelo has been tweaking css in the theme. i wrote my article in raw html without psssing it through a gist. 15:19
guifa2 ah okay! Sounds good. I'll leave it for him to tweak then. 15:20
[Coke] .
tbrowder for the code blocks is wrapped them in <pre><code> blah blah</code></pre> tags
with the code in lines and spacing as desired 15:21
it looks fairly good, but time for jmerelo to polish theme has been very limited. 15:22
and i am NOT going to jump in the middle of his plans. 15:23
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guifa2 tbrowder++ 15:40
[Coke] was able to compile rakudo on moarvm on his work windows machine after some time of not trying. 15:41
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Geth doc: 788210ec83 | Coke++ | doc/Language/faq.pod6
doc: e29cabde75 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Range.pod6
remove duplicate word
doc: 92b753488e | Coke++ | 2 files
new words/typos
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tbrowder .seen tony-o 16:12
tellable6 tbrowder, I saw tony-o 2019-12-09T18:38:01Z in #raku: <tony-o> tbrowder: travis-ci.org/rakudo/rakudo/jobs/6...6489#L1069 <- check it out
tbrowder .ask tony-o using xoos with sqlite, as i understand it, i need to create my tables before xoos can use them. and then do i have to create the yaml files then, or are they only needed for complex queries based on column characteristics in the yaml file? 16:18
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to tony-o
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Kind::Subset::Parametric (0.0.1) by 03KAIEPI 20:39
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::GObject (0.15.6) by 03MARTIMM 21:25
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QuantumPerl Hello, world! :) 21:46
lizmat QuantumPerl o/
QuantumPerl First time on an irc channel, but I am very enthusiastic to learn about Raku and the community
sena_kun QuantumPerl: welcome
tellable6 2019-12-13T00:45:34Z #raku-dev <AlexDaniel> sena_kun: interesting release situation: colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_lo...-12-13#l21
2019-12-13T00:46:11Z #raku-dev <AlexDaniel> sena_kun: this can never happen on nqp/rakudo side because the sakefile makes sure it can push everything and then it pushes
2019-12-13T00:47:32Z #raku-dev <AlexDaniel> sena_kun: so it's not a big problem, just something to keep in mind maybe
lizmat then you've come to the right place, although Friday night may not be the busiest time of the week
QuantumPerl well, I am planning to visit as often as I can 21:47
I guess this is a good time to get started with everything that has been going on 21:48
was wondering if the project which aimed at "translating" Perl 5 programs to Raku ones has had any activity/contribution 21:49
I saw the idea proposed on the perl website, found it pretty interesting, so I as curious 21:50
guifa2 I don't think there's been much activity on being able to put in P5 code and spit out Raku, but there is still an inline perl5 module that you can import fairly readily
sena_kun is curious about a regex translation engine, but doesn't know enough perl to estimate 21:51
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guifa2 sena_kun: you mean one that would take in a P5 regex and convert to a Raku one? Or would use regex to convert the code? 21:52
sena_kun guifa2: p5 regex into raku 21:53
guifa2 That shouldn't be toooooo hard to do. That could honestly make a pretty nice advent post (creating a Raku grammar to parse a P5 regex and then reconstruct using actions) 21:54
sena_kun yeah
I have one for JS regexes
and I think that if not 100% can be covered, but 99% would be a great help for everyone, as pcre is everywhere
QuantumPerl that is pretty neat, it would make for a good start for a more general project aiming at spiting p5 into raku 21:55
sena_kun one thing that bothers me is that ecma has a nice and clean grammar defined... but I haven't seen such a thing for perl regexes. OTOH I suspect I just did not search long enough
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::Gtk3 (0.21.0) by 03MARTIMM 21:58
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[Coke] perl or raku ? 22:01
brass Is there any way to change directories in raku so that when the program exits the shell is still in that directory? 22:03
Juerd brass: No program can do that
brass I didn't think so, just checking though 22:04
Juerd brass: You can't change the working directory of the parent process, but you can start a new shell. However, when you exit that (and your process if it's still running), you'll be back in the old working directory.
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Juerd This is independent of whatever programming language you're using 22:05
lizmat also note that chdir does nothing else than changing $*CWD 22:09
so that this is all lexically constrained, and doesn't cause problems when different threads want to have different working directories 22:10
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! LibXML (0.2.6) by 03WARRINGD 22:12
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guifa2 Raku chan folks get a preview of my new module that will be broken down in the Dec 15th advent day post 23:01
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Geth ecosystem: alabamenhu++ created pull request #475:
Added Regex::FuzzyToken