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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Trait::Traced (0.2.0) by 03KAIEPI 02:35
Kaiepi ^ adds support for tracing private methods, metamethods, and stash-related ops! 02:36
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guifa2 Kaiepi++ 04:27
discord6 <cyanmide> Really like the grammars feature in Raku! Is there documentation for JVM interop? I work at a generally stodgy and uptight fortune 500 tech company where almost everything is java. 04:32
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guifa2 cyanmide: I haven't played with it at all but here's some stuff jnthn.net/papers/2013-yapceu-jvm.pdf#page=42 04:55
uzl[m] guifa2: I didn't see your "comment" before, glad you enjoyed it. Regarding “method object: args” I guess it's just matter of what people feel more comfortable with but even when they've never used it, the Raku syntax is unified enough as to prevent any sort of surprises if they ever come across it. As Wall says, "Learn it once, use it many times". 04:57
.tell lizmat I think I'm finally getting what you're saying about 'sub say' and 'Str.say'. I guess this wouldn't be the case for `is-prime` (for example) which is defined as the method 'is-prime' on an Int object and ultimately the sub 'is-prime' ends up calling the method 'is-prime' on the sub's argument. 04:58
tellable6 uzl[m], I'll pass your message to lizmat
uzl[m] AFK
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guifa2 uzl[m]: I actually for a long time said "push @array: $items" without even realizing it wasn't as common. The colon really helped identify the difference between the two 05:00
(whereas push @array, $item to me feels a bit less clear the stark difference between @array and $item, although it's a common enough function and the different sigils kind of help) 05:01
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AlexDaniel cyanmide: I don't think we have some good docs, but stackoverflow actually helps in this case: stackoverflow.com/questions/271563...from-perl6 05:51
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El_Che guifa: push-in would make the direction more obvious, but to verbose 07:08
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Geth whateverable/master: 4 commits pushed by (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ 08:11
sarna hi, what would I use in raku in place of python's requests library? 08:21
basically I want to make simple web requests, check their status codes, simple stuff like that
tyil sarna: github.com/croservices/cro-http this is a popular module for it, I believe 08:25
sarna tyil: thanks 08:28
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Term::Choose (1.6.1) by 03KUERBIS 09:15
sarna can I somehow rename an import? for example `use Foo::Bar::Baz as Baz`
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chloekek sarna: use Foo::Bar::Baz; my constant Baz = Foo::Bar::Baz 09:17
sarna chloekek: thanks :)
chloekek p6: my constant Foo = do { use NativeCall }; say Foo
camelia Nil
chloekek Bummer.
sarna also, is there any way of putting a timeout on Cro's HTTP client? I can't find anything in the docs 09:18
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chloekek sarna: react { whenever $client.get -> $response { ... }; whenever Promise.in(5) -> { done } } 09:20
I guess :þ 09:21
Would be nice to have a timeout method on Promise
sarna chloekek: yeah, I thought maybe there was a simpler way :( thanks anyway 09:23
but even this way is fine actually! 09:25
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Voldenet in most languages something like this works: Promise.race([p, new Promise((_, f) => { setTimeout(() => f("timeout"), 5000); })]); 09:48
sarna I ended up grepping for the groups I needed 09:49
Voldenet: isn't that what we're doing, essentially? 09:50
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Voldenet essentially the logic is probably the same 09:54
sarna I find raku version more readable, to be honest 09:55
Voldenet m: sub anyof(|p) { my $l = Lock.new; my $p = Promise.new; for |p { .then( -> $r { $l.protect({ return if $p; if $r.status ~~ Kept { $p.keep($r.result); } else { $p.break($r.cause) } }) }) } 09:56
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Missing block
at <tmp>:1
------> 3); } else { $p.break($r.cause) } }) }) }7⏏5<EOL>
Voldenet m: sub anyof(|p) { my $l = Lock.new; my $p = Promise.new; for |p { .then( -> $r { $l.protect({ return if $p; if $r.status ~~ Kept { $p.keep($r.result); } else { $p.break($r.cause) } }) }) }; $p }; say await anyof(Promise.in(5).then({ die "timeout" }), Promise.in(2).then({ "good" }))
camelia good
Voldenet m: sub anyof(|p) { my $l = Lock.new; my $p = Promise.new; for |p { .then( -> $r { $l.protect({ return if $p; if $r.status ~~ Kept { $p.keep($r.result); } else { $p.break($r.cause) } }) }) }; $p }; say await anyof(Promise.in(1).then({ die "timeout" }), Promise.in(2).then({ "good" }))
camelia An operation first awaited:
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

Died with the exception:
in block at <tmp> line 1
Voldenet Promise.anyof would be perfect for this, but for some reason it always returns `True` 09:58
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Voldenet and `$response = await anyof(Promise.in(1).then({ die "timeout" }), $client.get)` has fewer redundant keywords 10:01
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sarna m: react { whenever Promise.in(1) -> { say 'hi'; done } } 10:10
camelia A react block:
in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1

Died because of the exception:
Too many positionals passed; expected 0 arguments but got 1
in block at <tmp> line 1
sarna why doesn't this work?
sena_kun -> is redundant? 10:11
m: react { whenever Promise.in(1) { say 'hi'; done } }
camelia hi
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sena_kun m: react { whenever Promise.in(1) -> $hehe { say $hehe; done } } 10:11
camelia True
sarna oh, I see :) 10:12
sena_kun sarna: `->` before block sets its signature, and when no things specified, it means there are 0 args expected
sarna right, it'd have to be -> $foo
sena_kun when you don't specify signature, nothing is really expected
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sena_kun whenever block is just like `if` (in a sense that it is an alike construction, I mean), there are no special syntax. 10:13
sarna why doesn't `when [1;2;3] { say 'hi' }` work, if `when so [1;2;3] { say 'hi' }` works? 10:15
yeah, I still have problems with syntax sometimes :D (well most of the time)
thanks for explaining :^)
sena_kun how does your `given` look like?
post a line using m: here please. :) 10:16
sarna ohh, you're supposed to use `when` only within `given` blocks?
I thought it was like unless :D
sena_kun well, technically it isn't required, I just assumed you have a given too
sarna m: when so [1;2;3] { say 'hi' } 10:17
camelia hi
sarna m: when [1;2;3] { say 'hi' }
camelia ( no output )
sena_kun sarna: docs.raku.org/syntax/when <- 10:18
I think there is an exact explanation present there
with examples of so and without so
sarna oh dang 10:19
m: my @arr = [1;2;3]; given @arr { when so * { say @arr } } 10:27
camelia [1 2 3]
sarna I like how this flows :D even though it's kinda verbose
sena_kun why not `if @arr.elems { say @arr }`? 10:28
sarna I'd prefer if `if @arr { say @arr }` worked :D 10:29
oh wait a second
I didn't show the important bit! 10:30
patrickb .tell El_Che: I managed to set up a build setup that creates stuff for Mac, Win and Linux for the rakubrew thingy using CircleCI. It was a rather pleasant experience. I'd be willing to do the same for rakudo. But I don't want to stomp on the work you already did in that area. What do you think? Would a CircleCI setup be a good way forward?
sarna m: my @arr = [1;2;3]; given @arr { when so * { say .raku } }
tellable6 patrickb, I'll pass your message to El_Che
camelia [1, 2, 3]
sarna sena_kun: now :) I wanted the array to be the topic
sena_kun m: my @a; if @a -> $_ { $_.say } 10:32
camelia ( no output )
sena_kun m: my @a = 1,2,3; if @a -> $_ { $_.say }
camelia [1 2 3]
sena_kun sarna: ^?
sarna m: my @a = 1,2,3; if @a -> $_ { .say }
camelia [1 2 3]
sarna aaaa I love it!
by the way, why doesn't if take the array as the topic automatically? I tried printing what it takes, but I'm just getting (Any).. 10:34
m: if 1,2,3 { .WHAT }
camelia ( no output )
sarna m: if 1,2,3 { say .WHAT } 10:35
camelia (Any)
sena_kun `if` doesn't set topic
moritz probably because it confuses people who have already set $_ on the outside
sena_kun `with` does, but it does a different thing
moritz for 1, 2, 3 { if $_ > 2 { .say } } # now you print True
evalable6 3
sarna ohhh
I see now! 10:36
> The with statement is like if, but tests for definedness rather than truth, and it topicalizes on the condition
that's precisely what I wanted!!
tyil raku provides again 10:37
sarna :D
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Geth doc: dumarchie++ created pull request #3184:
Correct type graph of role Seq
antoniogamiz o/
easiest way to install raku language on Ubuntu?
tyil apt install perl6 (but this will most likely be a very old version) 10:54
antoniogamiz mm
tyil if it just has to be a single-user installation, rakudo-star
dist.tyil.nl/raku/rakudo-star/raku...rc1.tar.gz 10:55
antoniogamiz cool, that's the most recent version?
tyil more recent than rakudo.org has, yes
but I'm not an official maintainer of r*
antoniogamiz mm ok, thanks for the info :) 10:56
tyil I haven't heard back from the official maintainers for about a month I think
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Geth doc: 1b1fe100b2 | (Peter du Marchie van Voorthuysen)++ | 3 files
Correct type graph of Seq
doc: bd8edb6850 | (Peter du Marchie van Voorthuysen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | 3 files
Merge pull request #3184 from dumarchie/#3163

Correct type graph of role Seq
sarna antoniogamiz: use rakudobrew! 11:05
works like a charm
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tadzik (: 11:12
antoniogamiz mm i will try it! though i have already installed raku the other way :/ 11:13
how can i uninstall it? 11:14
tadzik it depends on how you isntalled it :)
antoniogamiz raku.org/downloads
installing from source
should i delete rakudo folder only?
sarna that should work, I think 11:16
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Geth doc/use-ok-args: 0b46a21a2a | ven++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Test.pod6
Document passing arguments to `use-ok`
antoniogamiz rakudobrew build moar installs perl6/raku in my system, right? 11:20
lizmat .
tellable6 hey lizmat, you have a message: gist.github.com/862ecf549735a6cd7d...4d365001b7
sarna antoniogamiz: yes 11:21
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Geth doc: vendethiel++ created pull request #3185:
Document passing arguments to `use-ok`
sarna antoniogamiz: you should also install zef (the raku package manager), it's explained in the docs
rakudobrew docs I mean
antoniogamiz mmm i'm adding the line to my .profile file (as rakudobrew init says) but it's not working 11:25
if i run 'rakudobrew build moar', it outputs: "The shell hook required to use rakudobrew in 'env' mode and use the 'shell' command seems not to be installed.Run 'rakudobrew init' for installation instructions."
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sarna antoniogamiz: did you run `source ~/.profile` after adding the line there? 11:30
you have to run this or relog/reboot for it to work :) 11:31
antoniogamiz yep i did it
sarna hmm, that's weird then
antoniogamiz i have added to my zshrc instead and it works now
sarna oh, you use zsh 11:32
zsh reads from `.zprofile` iirc
antoniogamiz maybe that should be pointed out in the README 11:33
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sarna pinging tadzik 11:35
there already are fish-specific instructions, so adding a note for zsh would be fine I think 11:36
tadzik I no longer maintain rakudobrew and I have no idea what's going on there now :) 11:39
try patrickb
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sarna oh ok, sorry :^) 11:40
patrickb antoniogamiz: There is a new version of rakudobrew (then called rakubrew) to be released Soon(TM). That version has a much improved installation experience (including shell detection). I'm actually working on it atm. Hopefully I'll manage to get a call for testers out later today. :-) 11:41
tadzik there's also the old branch which does no shell shenanigans whatsoever, so should be more portable 11:42
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antoniogamiz patrickb: nice, thanks for your work :) 11:45
mmm rakudobre build moar has finished 11:47
but perl6/raku command is not available
do i have to update my PATH manually?
patrickb antoniogamiz: rakubrew switch moar-2020.1 (or whatever you just built) 11:48
antoniogamiz oh, good, everything's working now, thanks :) 11:49
Geth doc: 0b46a21a2a | ven++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Test.pod6
Document passing arguments to `use-ok`
doc: ce6b6416dd | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Type/Test.pod6
Merge pull request #3185 from Raku/use-ok-args

Document passing arguments to `use-ok`
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antoniogamiz mm I think I have deleted Raku/Documentable unintentionally... 12:01
sarna while browsing the source? :D 12:04
antoniogamiz While deleting my own fork :( 12:05
I hope jmerelo has a copy in his machine...
I'm very sorry for that, i will try to remake all issues from the notifications.. 12:08
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sarna happens to the best of us! 12:11
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antoniogamiz If someone has notifications from perl6/Documentable please send them to [email@hidden.address] 12:14
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tyil antoniogamiz: I presume you dont have a local checkout of your fork? 12:45
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antoniogamiz aahh Github support solved it! 12:46
everything restored :)
sarna \\o/
antoniogamiz sorry for all the trouble... it will not happen again.. 12:47
sarna antoniogamiz: don't be so hard on yourself! seriously :D 12:48
antoniogamiz sarna: thanks :)
sarna once I deleted my new config instead of the default one because the directory name was the same 12:49
had to recreate ~50 lines afterwards :D and I spent like two days getting it right before
antoniogamiz uoh sorry to hear that haha 12:50
tyil always be careful when deleting 12:51
i would suggest keeping a local copy somewhere, then you can always just `cd` to the directory and `push` again
git repos are relatively small most of the time
sarna github makes you type out the repo's name, I feel like it should make you type out the whole thing (namespaced)
rypervenche And always backup your important data. :) 12:52
sarna backups? what's that
tyil sarna: it's called "wasted space" in my book
not having backups keeps you sharp
sarna :D
living on the edge
we're the cool kids 12:53
tyil puts on sunglasses
aw yiss
tobs but no amount of `git clone` will get you backup of github issues and stuff, right?
tyil perhaps those aren't a great way to keep track of your stuff, then
Geth ecosystem/JJ-patch-7: 39b84671a2 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Move to new quarters
ecosystem: JJ++ created pull request #480:
Move to new quarters
tyil if you can't keep a local copy of it, it's not a great method of keeping it at all, in my opinion
especially since it's owned by MS now, and (I hope) we all remember MS's general antics with regards to supporting their end users 12:55
antoniogamiz tobs: yep, that was the problem
we had a local copy of the repo buy issues were lost...
sarna there's a service for backing up issues, but it's not free 12:56
open source project idea anyone?
tyil mailing lists have been free for decades iirc
and don't come with the necessity of creating an account at a non-free service 12:57
sarna you could set up your own git instance as well, haskell did that
tobs tyil: yes that's exactly what bothers me as well. Although I never actually cared enough to research if there are convenient ways to back up everything associated to the repo. It's certainly not as automatic as cloning the project itself...
antoniogamiz sarna: if you contact github support they answer you in 5 minutes or so
they have restored the problem whitout any trouble
sarna antoniogamiz: yeah, github support was pretty good from what I've seen 12:58
tyil sarna: I just have a bunch of directories in ~/.local/git, to store all my bare repos
and try to keep communication going through email where I can
Geth ecosystem: 39b84671a2 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Move to new quarters
ecosystem: 35669e4aa5 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #480 from Raku/JJ-patch-7

Move to new quarters
sarna btw - what's .local's purpose?
tyil ~/.local is a directory to keep other directories
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tyil it contains a bin, a share, all the things you'd find in /usr/local, really 12:59
but it's owned by my standard user
allowing me to install things for a single user without ever reaching for root
sarna neat, I have to use it more 13:00
because I've had issues with /usr/local before
what's the point of /usr/local if you still have to use root.. 13:01
tyil /usr is for things installed by your OS
/usr/local is for things installed by the system's admin 13:02
antoniogamiz is there away to avoid typing "rakudobrew switch moar-" everytime i want to have the command available in my terminal?
tyil ~/.local is for things installed by you
antoniogamiz: put it in your shell's config
antoniogamiz (other than adding it to my .zshrc file, because if i do that then a message is printed everytime i open a terminal)
tyil add a >/dev/null
antoniogamiz oh right 13:03
tyil there's also gitlab.com/tyil/lonestar, but it's specifically for rakudo-star 13:04
(also mostly tested on gentoo, nothing else)
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sarna ohh, TIL tyil 13:05
it makes sense though
tyil it does :) 13:06
sarna: if you're interested home.tyil.nl/git/dotfiles/ this is how I set up my stuff 13:07
it may not be for the faint of heart, though
sarna antoniogamiz: I have `eval "$(/home/bjan/.rakudobrew/bin/rakudobrew init Bash)"` in my .profile and I don't have to switch every time
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sarna pretty sure you can put the same in .zprofile with Zsh instead of Bash and it'll work 13:08
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antoniogamiz sarna: thanks, i will do that :D 13:08
sarna tyil: nead, I'll check it out
I used to have a repo like this too, but it was always out of date 13:09
tyil I know the problem
sarna and/or not portable between my computers
tyil this time I did `git init` in my homedir
so I see it immediately when it's out of sync
the portability is fixed by sticking to posix where I can, and having OS/distro specific stuff split into seperate files
it checks whether Im on a linux-based or bsd-based thing 13:10
and the name of the linux- or bsd-based thing
sarna antoniogamiz: note there's my username in there, you want to change that :D
tyil and loads a file with the right name
home.tyil.nl/git/dotfiles/tree/.co.../aliases.d here for instance, generic is always loaded, and the others load depending on what system I'm on
and other than that, always stick to posix defined behaviour everywhere you can 13:11
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antoniogamiz sarna: I know :> 13:13
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antoniogamiz where can i access the irc logs of this channel? 13:19
tyil colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/raku
antoniogamiz ah it's a link at the beginning
thanks tyilç
tyil :)
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sarna tyil: neato 13:21
there's like a manager for that too
tyil I've tried many of those things 13:22
but nothing works as well as posix sh and a little git
(in my experience, that is)
sarna :D yeah 13:23
posix sh is a can of worms though, iirc
tyil only if you're inexperienced, but that goes for most things in tech 13:24
once you learn to handle posix sh, all your shell life will improve considerably
no longer will you need to worry about "how will it run on the macbooks of my colleagues", or "but what about that BSD server I have"
sarna yeah but "Because sh is a specification, not an implementation, /bin/sh is a symlink (or a hard link) to an actual implementation on most POSIX systems." 13:25
and some shells conform better than others
tyil you should avoid /bin/sh to begin with
sarna what do you use instead?
tyil `/usr/bin/env sh` 13:26
and if you stick to posix defined behaviour, all shells work quite well as /bin/sh
sarna ah, neat
tyil the problems seem to always occur once you bring in non-posix utils or extensions
sarna thanks :^) will come in handy with my devops work
tyil indeed it does (im also devops) 13:27
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! String::Fields (0.0.1) by 03ELIZABETH 13:57
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Geth doc: 55c4e98262 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Test.pod6
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Geth doc: dumarchie++ created pull request #3186:
Complete documentation of role Sequence
[Coke] the whitespace thing also fixed an example compilation issue 14:21
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antoniogamiz o/ 16:10
who can access CircleCi and travis to enable them in Raku/Documentable?
(it's been moved from perl6/Documentable to Raku/Documentable os it needs to be reconfigured) 16:11
Kaiepi releasable6, status 16:16
releasable6 Kaiepi, Next release will happen when it's ready. 1 blocker. 0 out of 524 commits logged
Kaiepi, Details: gist.github.com/c9de039ff574d0a7b2...2b8586e298
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Kaiepi .tell tbrowder, i'm up for mentoring 16:32
tellable6 Kaiepi, I'll pass your message to tbrowder
tbrowder great, let jmerelo know. he was one of our gsoc leaders last year 16:34
.tell jmerelo; ^^^
tellable6 tbrowder, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Tellable
tbrowder .tell jmerelo ^^^ 16:35
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to jmerelo
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Gnome::N ( by 03MARTIMM 16:48
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! String::Fields (0.0.2) by 03ELIZABETH 17:16
antoniogamiz lizmat: can you enable/disable repositories in CircleCI/Travis in the Raku org? 17:21
lizmat I can try 17:22
antoniogamiz then please try with Raku/Documentable 17:23
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lizmat antoniogamiz so I'm at Integrations & services, what should I do ? 17:25
antoniogamiz mm enable Raku/Documentable repository
there should be a list of available repositories
lizmat Travis already has access to all Raku repositories 17:26
I don't see any CircleCI stuff 17:27
antoniogamiz and CircleCI?
CircleCI is another service like travis
it's in a different page
lizmat looks like the webhooks are already in place 17:28
antoniogamiz mmm then why travis-ci.org/perl6/Documentable works but not Raku/Documentable? mm
lizmat perhaps Travis doesn't know about the move yet 17:29
that was today, right?
antoniogamiz yep
lizmat it only reads the repo once a day afaik
antoniogamiz mmm then i will wait to see if it gets fixed
thanks for your help :)
lizmat so good chance it'll all be ok tomorrow 17:30
you're welcome
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Trait::Traced (0.2.1) by 03KAIEPI 17:46
Kaiepi ^ removes a lot of overhead from tracing 17:52
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ingy I want to start redoing some of my published perl6 stuff to raku. Need to know basic conventions like file extensions, binary name, etc. What's a good starting point URL or FAQ? 20:19
rypervenche ingy: I believe this is what you're looking for: github.com/Raku/problem-solving/bl...to-Raku.md 20:23
ingy *click*
[Coke] ingy: hio
rypervenche I have to say, it's very cool to see many of the people that I've watched in Raku talks here in the IRC channel. 20:24
ingy raku.org/downloads seems to be out of date. referring to 2019.03 release 20:28
rypervenche ingy: That's Rakudo Star. The rakudo compiler is at 2019.11 currently, although there should hopefully be a new release in the next few days. They're working on an issue at the moment. 20:32
I *think* Rakudo Star will be updated as well after the 2020.01 release of rakudo, so it will be available for FOSDEM, but don't quote me on that. :) 20:33
ingy :) 20:34
rypervenche I'm very new to the community and language, so I can only say what I've seen in the past couple of weeks. 20:35
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[Coke] We're close to the next compiler release, no? 20:36
lizmat yes, afaik 20:39
ingy is there any reason to call perl "Perl 5" anymore?
lizmat I don't think so, I've been referring to Perl 5 as "Perl" for some months now
[Coke] lizmat++ 20:40
ingy I'll take it slow and ask here when I run into a contentious naming situation
how many modules have switched from .pm6 extensions so far? 20:41
lizmat none, because we would need a Rakudo Star out there that supports the new extensions
rypervenche I think we're waiting until 6.e before module extensions get changed? 20:42
lizmat and we don't have that yet: 2020.01 would be the first
HEAD supports the new extensions already
but not everybody's running aHEAD :-)
ingy glad I asked 20:43
the `raku` bin name is switchable now though, right?
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lizmat the 2019.11 compiler release supports that 20:45
but creating a local alias should work with older versions
ingy I guess I'll wait for a star release 20:49
rypervenche Is it possible to have a variable interpolated inside of a \c[ ] ? 20:52
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mdmkolbe (Sorry, I had connection issues, my question still stands) 20:53
lizmat ingy: that's probably wise... it should only be a week or so
rypervenche mdmkolbe: Could you please resend your question? 20:58
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El_Che ingy: what's your OS? 21:02
tellable6 hey El_Che, you have a message: gist.github.com/c4a5e9b22a7fb653f1...9150156dcb
mdmkolbe I'm trying to get perl6-js to work with the `selenium-webdriver` node package. I'm getting the following error: gist.github.com/adamsmd/1bb704e793...74044e6456 I don't know whether this is a bug in perl6-js or if I'm just using it wrong. 21:06
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ingy El_Che: why do you ask? 21:21
I'm not having trouble using raku. I want to update raku software for people to use successfully. Thus I'm confused as to why my OS matters here... 21:22
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Trait::Traced (0.2.2) by 03KAIEPI 21:24
El_Che ingy: because I provide linux packages of the latest releases 21:25
ingy: I don't provide macos or windows packages (yet) 21:26