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| nosqrt | gay | 10:56 | |
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| lizmat | raku *is* fun :-) | 10:58 | |
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| rba | Just to let you know I've renamed the meetup group to "Swiss Raku and Perl Community". www.meetup.com/Swiss-Raku-Perl-Com...ty-Meetup/ | 11:21 | |
| And there will be a "Swiss Raku and Perl Miniconf 2020" in Switzerland. Stay tuned... | 11:22 | ||
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| jnthn | Ooh...tempting, so long as the dates work :) | 11:28 | |
| rba | moritz: You're so quick. retweeted... | 11:29 | |
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| moritz | rba: I'm either quick or miss it entirely :D | 11:56 | |
| rba | moritz++ | ||
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Audio::Liquidsoap (0.0.8) by 03JSTOWE | 12:13 | |
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| tyil | /b 62 | 14:14 | |
| woops | |||
| leont | m: say Order("Same") | 14:15 | |
| evalable6 | (Order) | ||
| leont | That is a bug right? That should return an Order::Same? | ||
| tobs | I'm not sure if that isn't intended or if it's just not implemented. | 14:25 | |
| m: say Order(1) # converting the value representation of the enum works | 14:26 | ||
| evalable6 | More | ||
| tobs | m: say Order::<Same> # key lookup exists like this | ||
| evalable6 | Same | ||
| leont | In my scenario I get Order in a variable, so Order::<> isn't available to me | 14:28 | |
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| moritz | m: my $name = 'Order'; say ::($name):: | 14:29 | |
| evalable6 | (Order) | ||
| moritz | m: my $name = 'Order'; say ::($name)::.keys | ||
| evalable6 | () | ||
| moritz | m: my $name = 'Order'; say ::($name)::<> | ||
| evalable6 | (Order) | ||
| lizmat | leont: is this specifically about Order, or more about enums in general ? | 14:30 | |
| if about Order: then check it numerically | 14:31 | ||
| m: dd Same == 0 | |||
| evalable6 | Bool::True | ||
| lizmat | m: dd Less == -1 | ||
| evalable6 | Bool::True | ||
| lizmat | m: dd More == 1 | ||
| evalable6 | Bool::True | ||
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| leont | Apparently enums in general | 14:36 | |
| Given I type object, I want to be able to convert strings into values of that enum, or die trying | |||
| lizmat | hmmm..... | 14:39 | |
| jnthn | Order(...) only expects the enum value, not its name; we shouldn't confuse those two, othewise things will get really weird on string-based enums | 14:40 | |
| m: my $name = Same; dd Order::{$name} | 14:41 | ||
| evalable6 | Order::Same | ||
| jnthn | Do it like that to find it by name | ||
| lizmat | jnthn: I think the actual enum type can only be derived from a value in a variable in leont 's case | 14:43 | |
| leont | Yeah, I have a $order = Order as a starting point | 14:44 | |
| lizmat | m: m: my $name = Same; dd $name.WHAT::{$name} | ||
| evalable6 | Any element{'Same'} = Any | ||
| lizmat | leont: is that what you mean, or am I misunderstanding ? | 14:45 | |
| leont | I have «my $order = Order; my $name = "Same";», I want to make Order::Same out of that | 14:46 | |
| lizmat | jnthn: ^^ | 14:47 | |
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| tobs | m: my $order = Order; my $name = "Same; dd $order($order.enums{$name}) | 14:48 | |
| evalable6 | (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Er… | ||
| tobs, Full output: gist.github.com/70f7bdc39d05398179...2ae18ba1cc | |||
| tobs | m: my $order = Order; my $name = "Same"; dd $order($order.enums{$name}) | 14:49 | |
| evalable6 | Order::Same | ||
| tobs | doesn't win a succinctness prize though | ||
| leont | tobs++ | ||
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| jnthn | m: my $enum = Order; my $name = 'Same'; dd $enum.WHO{$name} | 14:52 | |
| evalable6 | Order::Same | ||
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| tobs | oh neat | 14:56 | |
| lizmat | jnthn++ # duh! | 14:57 | |
| m: my $enum = Order; dd $enum.WHO.keys | |||
| evalable6 | ("More", "Same", "Less").Seq | ||
| daxim | do we have a (directed) graph module? need to find all nodes that are not successors to a certain node. I don't want to code it myself if it can be helped | 14:58 | |
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| jnthn | I don't think so. I did implement such a think as a util in some project a while back, but it only had a couple of algorithms that I needed. | 14:59 | |
| Did think to release it at some point and enjoy implementing a bunch more graph algos along the way, but...as usual, too many things to do. | 15:00 | ||
| jaldhar | Hello. I missed a couple of the weekly challenges over Christmas so I'm going back and doing them now. I did challenge 038 and ran into an interesting situation. | 15:02 | |
| Am I right in thinking there is no way to return "undef" from a grammar action class? | |||
| You can return Nil (and I did) but it is not the same thing. | 15:03 | ||
| leont | Seems I can't add a returns trait whose type argument is a value? «sub foo() returns($type) {}» | 15:05 | |
| Working around it for now by calling trait-mod:<returns>(&foo, $type), it feels a bit clunky | 15:06 | ||
| jnthn | Only if $type is a constant (and so available at compile itme) | ||
| Since traits are applied at compile time | |||
| leont | Right, that does make sense | ||
| trait-mod:<returns>(&foo, $type) it is then | |||
| jaldhar | The reason why one would want that is that you can test if a grammar parsed correctly by $parsed = $grammar.parse(); if $parsed... but if you add extra validation in an action class, you end up having to do $parsed = $grammar.parse(); if $parsed && $parsed.made which is unsightly. | 15:09 | |
| Not a huge problem as things go but I was wondering about this. | 15:10 | ||
| jnthn | jaldhar: The return values of grammar actions are ignored; only `make` is useful for attaching anything | ||
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| jaldhar | jnthn: So I used make Nil to signify that validation has failed. But ideally I would want make undef. It does not seem to be possible. | 15:11 | |
| jnthn | There is no undef | 15:12 | |
| jaldhar | There should be some way of saying this AST (or match object?) is empty. After all isn't that what you get if you fail a regex or a grammar without actions? | 15:14 | |
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| jaldhar | IIRC in yacc grammars there is a routine you can specify to mean "Game over man. halt parsing." I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a simple way to do that in Raku. | 15:18 | |
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| lizmat | die ? | 15:20 | |
| grammars are just code | |||
| jnthn | If you don't call `make` then you won't have set a .made. But ultimately there's two levels here: the parse tree and the AST. | 15:21 | |
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| jaldhar | lizmat: would that exit out of the grammar parse or out of the script altogether? But I just remembered that Raku has exceptions. Maybe throwing an exception is the right way to do this? | 15:23 | |
| lizmat | put a CATCH block in the same scope as where you do the parse | 15:24 | |
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| lizmat | m: CATCH { say "reviving"; .resume }; die; say "alive again" | 15:25 | |
| evalable6 | reviving alive again |
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| jaldhar | lizmat: ok just read about all that. die is how exceptions are thrown and CATCH {} is how they are caught. | 15:26 | |
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| jaldhar | Well, I had solved my initial problem but I shall file this away in brain for future reference. | 15:27 | |
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| jaldhar | Thanks jnthn and lizmat | 15:28 | |
| lizmat | jaldhar: please note that "die 'foo'" is just short for X::Adhoc.new("foo").thriow | ||
| *throw | 15:29 | ||
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| lizmat | if you make your own Exception class, you can actually put information in there that you could use in the CATCH block to react | 15:29 | |
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| Geth | ecosystem: d982779fc8 | ven++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list Add JSON::Mask and Badger |
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| jaldhar | lizmat: yes there is some neat stuff there but I need to look into it more. Unfortunately, if a topic is not covered in Laurents' book I don't know about it! | 15:34 | |
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| holli | how do i write a generic class in Raku? class f[::t] {} doesnt compile | 16:58 | |
| Altai-man_ | holli, you write generic roles with role Foo[::T] { ...something with T... } and then `class Bar does Foo[Int] { ...use things from Foo role... }` | 17:01 | |
| holli | wait, you can use a role from the body of the class? | 17:02 | |
| leont | Apparently you can do this with a «method ^parameterize», not sure if that's in the spec though | ||
| jnthn | Sorta, but please just write a role. | ||
| Altai-man_ | holli, can you share a simple pseudocode sample of what you want so we could help with it? | 17:03 | |
| leont | Fair enough | ||
| holli | in the end i would like my @linked-list[Something] = (Something.new(1), Something.new(2), Something.new(3) ); @linked-list.add-node(2, Something(4) ); | 17:04 | |
| basically implement a linked list and make it look and behave like an array/hash | 17:05 | ||
| i'm just pondering ideas for the weekly challenge | |||
| jmerelo | holli: you can also "pun" or directly instantiate that kind of parametrized roles. | 17:06 | |
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| tbrowder | hi, #raku peeps | 17:48 | |
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| Geth | rakudo.org/star-2020.01: 9a2e3942f5 | (Patrick Spek)++ | post/announce-rakudo-star-release-2020.01.md Add release announcement for Rakudo Star v2020.01 |
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| rakudo.org: Tyil++ created pull request #35: Add release announcement for Rakudo Star v2020.01 |
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| tbrowder | i notice lots of perl6 references still in the docs. are they fair game for changes, or is there a master plan for them i'm not aware of? | 17:50 | |
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| Geth | doc: tbrowder++ created pull request #3231: document new raku environment variable RAKUDO_POD_DECL_BLOCK_USER_FORMAT |
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| Geth | doc: c578022763 | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/pod.pod6 document new raku environment variable RAKUDO_POD_DECL_BLOCK_USER_FORMAT |
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| doc: 4b2f347ab1 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/pod.pod6 Merge pull request #3231 from tbrowder/user-fmt document new raku environment variable RAKUDO_POD_DECL_BLOCK_USER_FORMAT |
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| Geth | doc: tbrowder++ created pull request #3232: chg p6 to raku |
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| AlexDaniel` | ehhh | 18:32 | |
| where's the latest rakudobrew? | |||
| here I think github.com/Raku/App-Rakubrew | |||
| but nothing links to it | |||
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| Geth | doc: tbrowder++ created pull request #3233: chg pe6 to raku |
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| Geth | doc: tbrowder++ created pull request #3234: chg p6 to raku |
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| doc: 0aa06f65b2 | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/5to6-nutshell.pod6 chg p6 to raku |
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| doc: fbb791c6eb | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/5to6-nutshell.pod6 Merge pull request #3232 from tbrowder/p6toraku-5to6-nutshell chg p6 to raku |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/5to6-nutshell | ||
| jmerelo | AlexDaniel`: that's rakubrew, the next rakudobrew | ||
| AlexDaniel`: rakudobrew should be in tadzik's repo. | |||
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| jmerelo | github.com/tadzik/rakudobrew | 18:41 | |
| Geth | doc: 07d0438e5f | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/5to6-perlsyn.pod6 chg p6 to raku |
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| doc: e54a83b007 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/5to6-perlsyn.pod6 Merge pull request #3234 from tbrowder/p6toraku-5to6-perlsyn.pod6 chg p6 to raku |
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| Geth | doc: tbrowder++ created pull request #3236: chg p6 to raku |
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| [Coke] | Would anyone like to be able to deal with parquet files in Raku? | 19:09 | |
| Geth | doc: 9a263ebe0d | (Tom Browder)++ | doc/Language/about.pod6 chg p6 to raku |
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| Geth | problem-solving: tbrowder++ created pull request #165: update reference |
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| raku.org: e64241cfe6 | (Patrick Spek)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | source/downloads/index.html Merge pull request #144 from Raku/star-2020.01 Update downloads page for Rakudo Star 2020.01 |
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