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Geth doc: 7786df2309 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Nil.pod6
Clarifies behavior
doc: a36629850d | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Nil.pod6
Comment on ALL-CAPS methods for Nil refs #2632
linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Nil
DOC#2632 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/2632 [Hacktoberfest][RFE][big][docs][good first issue][help wanted][new][⚠ Top Priority ⚠] Checklist for 6.d
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! IO::Path::XDG (0.2.0) by 03TYIL 09:25
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El_Che releasable6: status 10:28
releasable6 El_Che, Next release will happen when it's ready. 4 blockers. 166 out of 347 commits logged (⚠ 3 warnings)
El_Che, Details: gist.github.com/4dc9829e533b00d630...5260df7917
El_Che No release is expected the coming days? 10:29
(am I not pushing for releases, just figuring out if packages need to be released) 10:30
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chloekek p6: say v1 11:10
camelia v1
chloekek p6: sub v1 { }; say v1
camelia v1
chloekek p6: sub v1 { }; say v1()
camelia Nil
chloekek p6: say v1()
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Undeclared routine:
v1 used at line 1
lizmat m: say v1.^name 11:12
camelia Version
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chloekek p6: say v1.raku 12:31
camelia v1.raku
chloekek p6: say (v1).raku
camelia v1
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timotimo :D 12:46
that's funny
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tbrowder .ask nine when using Inline::Perl5 and a perl class object is there any way to dump its structure? i've tried 13:23
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tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to nine 13:23
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tbrowder .ask nine perl Data::Dump dump as well as Raku Data::Dump. 13:24
tellable6 tbrowder, I'll pass your message to nine
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chloekek p6: say ?'0'; say ?+'0' 16:38
camelia True
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discord6 <Snoofkin> The link on the raku.org downloads page is still broken 17:00
<Snoofkin> The "downloads" segment of the rakudo.org URL should be "dl" instead 17:01
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chloekek feels like writing a cobol compiler 18:03
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AlexDaniel chloekek: what about writing a raku compiler x) 18:09
chloekek Where’s the fun in that? 18:10
El_Che chloekek: if you have the itch, go for it 18:12
however I wonder who the audience would be
guifa2 I was thinking about that too for cobol. It's a language from the 50s, it can't be that hard too parse 18:13
El_Che: did you not see the news articles about the need for cobol programmers / maintainers? At least, it's been an issue here in the US
El_Che Haven't seen to much FOSS in Cobol and the Cobol people I know work in places where the market is cornered by Microfocus and the like
guifa2: programmers not compilers 18:14
guifa2 El_Che: fair, but it would be cool to be able to use it as a slang in Raku
El_Che could, sure
useful, I have my doubts because a lot of Cobol is run om emulated OSes mimicking Mainframes 18:15
I don't see Raku running there
(to say nothing about the real mainframes)
(I did a migration from stratus mainframe/cobol to Solaris Cobol+Java) 18:16
chloekek guifa2: Parsing is not difficult, implementing the plethora of commands and how they work with data is less trivial.
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El_Che what I remember is that the build process was painfully delicate 18:18
guifa2 chloekek: taht's what I imagined. Especially since there were major language revisions changing at times core datatypes
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chloekek Here’s an example of a COBOL compiler :) sourceforge.net/p/open-cobol/code/.../codegen.c 18:43
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chloekek There’s a nice way to “cheat” when writing such a compiler though, which is to implement high-level routines for all the combinations of operations and data types in C, and then just let LLVM inline them. It’s easier to write C than it is to write code that generates LLVM IR. :) 19:15
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Geth ecosystem: a4382cc0d3 | (David Warring)++ | META.list
renamed module sources: /p6-pdf/*-p6 -> /pdf-raku/*-raku
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guifa2 Can you define a variable by a string? I know you can do ::($foo) to reference a variable but my ::($foo) doesn't work 20:14
timotimo lexical pads aren't run-time mutable 20:16
packages could do it
but of course that's not "my", that's "our"
MasterDuke istr in the past couple months someone had the same question and there was a bit of back and forth on how it might be possible. maybe something like adding to MY::? 20:17
could try searching the logs
guifa2 Hmm. It's looking like I'm going to have to do a rewrite eventually then of Binex to compile into QAST 20:18
Because otherwise I'm not really sure how I can handle variable definitions and code blocks referencing outside variables =\ 20:19
Or is there a way to run a block unencapsulated? (e.g. fully inlining its code?) 20:20
(even EVAL runs encapsulated boo) 20:22
timotimo there's the whole stuff with whatevercode and such 20:23
they don't have their own scope 20:24
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guifa2 hmm. I think it might be easier right now for me to just say "youhave to use dynamical variables". No rush atm for accessing those I don't think 20:25
those = inline lexicals
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timotimo sure, that's likely good enough 20:36
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timotimo anybody want to build a clone of `concurrent` off the npm? 20:55
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El_Che I am looking at modules.raku.org/dist/App::Mi6:cpa...META6.json and trying to figure out where the bin/mi6 is added? nothing to see there for bin dirs 21:33
"provides" 21:34
got it :)
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rbt Is there a module for writing CSV files? There seem to be several for reading them. 22:02
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guifa2 rbt: does Tux's module not work? It says it's able to create CSV 23:18
rbt Oh. I see. Docs are buried in another file. 23:24
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RubioTerra Hello. I just realized "$string .= subst(...)" is dead slow on long strings. Is that expected? 23:43
I guess the problem is that the string is duplicated every time, right?
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