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| moon-child | say I wanted to make + act the same as «+». Is there a better way than making 3 different multimethods for (Iterable, Iterable), (Iterable, any), (any, Iterable)? | 01:06 | |
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| moon-child | how do I define my own metaoperator? I can't find any docs (except for a 15-year-old mailing list post) | 04:00 | |
| elcaro | moon-child: I don't think it's supported... at least not currently | 04:02 | |
| If I recall... I think I know this from a talk Larry gave at a Racket conf. The vid's on YouTube | |||
| pretty sure at the end, someone asks if one can define their own meta-operators, and Larry says something along the lines of "not yet" | 04:03 | ||
| moon-child | elcaro: ok | ||
| shame. I was hoping it would be possible to implement (most of) apl inside raku | |||
| elcaro | regarding your earlier question.. this works, though I dunno if it's the best way | 04:18 | |
| glot.io/snippets/fnw929r5bf | |||
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| Geth | doc: 31d1ecb96a | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/containers.pod6 Link description to class #3443 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/containers | ||
| DOC#3443 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3443 [docs] The description of Proxy is LTA | |||
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| ab5tract | o/ | 09:42 | |
| . o ( wouldn't it be nice if Proxy was a role rather than a class? ) | 09:43 | ||
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| Geth | doc: 711924fa28 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/containers.pod6 Minor grammar adjustments #3443 |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/containers | ||
| DOC#3443 [open]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3443 [docs] The description of Proxy is LTA | |||
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| ShimmerFairy | I really wish the value of $?LINE wasn't decided in the Actions, not even macros are helping get the line at which a function call was done. | 10:30 | |
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| MasterDuke | ShimmerFairy: maybe try turning on line coverage? | 11:06 | |
| ShimmerFairy | what's that? | 11:07 | |
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| MasterDuke | set MVM_COVERAGE_LOG=foo-%p.log (or %d maybe, it creates a per-pid file) | 11:08 | |
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| MasterDuke | you can also use MVM_COVERAGECONTROL=1 and then `nqp::coveragecontrol(1); nqp::coveragecontrol(0);` to start and stop it where you want in your code | 11:10 | |
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| ShimmerFairy | A quick glance at the output and it looks like it tells you where the callees are, not where the callers are. | 11:31 | |
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| poohman | hi | 11:31 | |
| do we have a separate irc channel for comma ide? | 11:32 | ||
| MasterDuke | is #comma a thing? | ||
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| MasterDuke | ShimmerFairy: modules.raku.org/dist/Trait::Traced:cpan:KAIEPI maybe? | 11:34 | |
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| poohman | not a lot of people at #comma - just one | 11:34 | |
| MasterDuke | well, sena_kun, jnthn, and timotimo can probably help, they're comma devs | 11:35 | |
| sena_kun | poohman, no specific channel, anything I can be helpful with? | ||
| poohman | Just did a Comma update and have in Tools an option calle XML options | 11:36 | |
| im working with XML libraries for the past few days | |||
| and the options there seem tailor made for what Im trying to do | |||
| but they are greyed out | |||
| sena_kun | poohman, did it work before this release? | 11:37 | |
| poohman | I did not notice | ||
| just happened to notice it when I tried to check the Grammar Preview as it is in the same menu | 11:38 | ||
| sena_kun | poohman, indeed, seeing them. Ok, I'll create a ticket to look into why they are not active, shouldn't be too hard to fix it next release. | 11:41 | |
| poohman | thanks | 11:42 | |
| sena_kun | poohman, ticket created, will work on it. Thanks for reporting! | ||
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| tbrowder | can comma be used to debug rakudo/rakudo/src/Perl6 code during a build? | 12:06 | |
| ShimmerFairy | Depends on how good it is at NQP (or grammars if that's all you need, since NQP and Raku grammars are pretty much the same), I'd imagine. | 12:07 | |
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| lucs | Grammar with proto`s question: gist.github.com/lucs/b6b5e77126b89...bc02a2b498 | 12:22 | |
| ShimmerFairy | lucs: the usual strategy, which you can find being done in Raku's grammar, is to bring that out into a separate rule, so things look like elem:sym<let> { <let> } ... ld { <let> <dig> } | 12:27 | |
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| ShimmerFairy | Maybe <elem:sym<let>> could work, but I wouldn't count on it. | 12:28 | |
| lucs | ShimmerFairy: Trying... | 12:29 | |
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| lucs | ShimmerFairy: Interestingly, both approaches work. | 12:34 | |
| Thanks | |||
| ShimmerFairy | I'd factor it out anyway, since needing the same regex in two places is usually a sign it should be put in a separate rule (like with regular code and functions) :) | 12:35 | |
| lucs | I'll have to see how I handle associated actions -- as you can guess, I golfed this down from some real code I'm trying to build. | 12:36 | |
| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! Set::Equality (0.0.1) by 03ELIZABETH | 12:39 | |
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| lucs | By the way, I'd say the regex was already factored outr; your first suggested approach factors out its name -- the second one lets me reuse the name, but yeah, it looks a bit heavy. | 12:41 | |
| *out | |||
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| fink92 | I find myself difficult to understand the code to sort an array by descending: my @x = {5,1,3,4,-9, 0}; | 12:49 | |
| .sort: * < * | |||
| intuitively I assume it be sorting by ascending ... | 12:50 | ||
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| ShimmerFairy | m: my @x = 5,1,3,4,-9,0; say @x.sort; say @x.sort: * < * | 12:52 | |
| camelia | (-9 0 1 3 4 5) (5 4 3 1 0 -9) |
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| MasterDuke | m: my @x = 5,1,3,4,-9,0; say @x.sort; say @x.sort: -* | 12:55 | |
| camelia | (-9 0 1 3 4 5) (5 4 3 1 0 -9) |
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| Geth | doc: Michael-S++ created pull request #3445: Add tuple section for Python to Raku page. |
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| Geth | doc: Michael-S++ created pull request #3446: Add section on tail call optimization/elimination. |
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| Xliff | How does one go looking into the main symbol table, again? | 14:25 | |
| Particularly, I'd like to go through the entire table and pull out all of the CStructs. | 14:26 | ||
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| MasterDuke | m: .say for ::.keys # something like this? | 14:30 | |
| camelia | $=finish $/ $_ EXPORT $! !UNIT_MARKER GLOBALish ::?PACKAGE $=pod $?PACKAGE $¢ |
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| lizmat | Xliff: since almost everything in Raku is lexical, what "main symbol table" are you thinking about | ||
| m: dd +CORE::.keys | 14:31 | ||
| camelia | 688 | ||
| Xliff | MasterDuke: Thanks! | ||
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| Xliff | MasterDuke++, lizmat++! | 14:36 | |
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| tbrowder | in | 15:06 | |
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| Geth | doc: aa58e749e7 | (Mike Swierczek)++ | doc/Language/py-nutshell.pod6 Add tuple section for Python to Raku page. This is to help users coming from any language with Tuples find a page listing an equivalent Raku feature. |
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| doc: 9e8e24d737 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/py-nutshell.pod6 Merge pull request #3445 from Michael-S/master Add tuple section for Python to Raku page. |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/py-nutshell | ||
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| Geth | doc: uzluisf++ created pull request #3447: Clarify description of reduce sub/method for Any and List |
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| doc: Michael-S++ created pull request #3448: Attempt to add 'case statements' to indexing |
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| Geth | doc: fc7c71647c | (Mike Swierczek)++ | doc/Language/haskell-to-p6.pod6 Add section on tail call optimization/elimination. Someone coming from Haskell, Common Lisp, and several other functional languages might want to know if Raku supports tail call optimization. I can't find any recent detailed discussions on it, but my understanding is that it's not in the Raku language spec or in the Rakudo implementation. |
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| linkable6 | Link: docs.raku.org/language/haskell-to-p6 | ||
| doc: c700b4c29b | (Mike Swierczek)++ | doc/Language/haskell-to-p6.pod6 Removed redundant headings. |
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| holli__ | can i somehow hint to GENERATE-USAGE to exclude a main candidate from the description? | 17:00 | |
| i have one multi in which i catch bad argzuments and i don't want that to appear in the USAGE | 17:01 | ||
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| ctilmes | holli___: is hidden-from-USAGE | 17:09 | |
| docs.raku.org/language/create-cli#...from-USAGE | |||
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| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! FastCGI::NativeCall (0.0.7) by 03JSTOWE | 17:17 | |
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| mahafyi | hello. i felt Raku community should have some successful application here -> www.mozilla.org/builders :) | 18:37 | |
| cpan-raku | New module released to CPAN! MongoDB (0.43.10.2) by 03MARTIMM | ||
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| holli__ | ctilmes: ty | 19:42 | |
| tellable6 | holli__, I'll pass your message to ctilmes | ||
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| guifa_ | o/ | 21:41 | |
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| holli__ | m: class foo { method bar { 1 }; submethod TWEAK { next } }; say foo.new.bar for 1..3 | 23:06 | |
| camelia | ( no output ) | ||
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| holli__ | that's kinda surprising | 23:07 | |
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| lucs | m: my %h = :42.23foo; print %h.perl; | 23:22 | |
| camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Malformed radix number at <tmp>:1 ------> 3my %h = :427⏏5.23foo; print %h.perl; expecting any of: number in radix notation |
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| lucs | m: my %h = :42foo; print %h.perl; | ||
| camelia | {:foo(42)} | ||
| lucs | That's the craziest notation :) | ||
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