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Xliff | \o | 00:53 | |
Here's a weird one! | |||
"MoarVM panic: Internal error: invalid thread ID 181469784 in GC work pass" | 00:54 | ||
Suddenly started showing up in a compunit after a (supposedly) unrelated code change. | |||
Minor change in another piece of code and now it is showing up in a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT compunit! | 00:57 | ||
"MoarVM panic: Internal error: invalid thread ID -1586283160 in GC work pas" | |||
Hopefully that has been fixed in github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/ff...51f3dc8972 | 01:08 | ||
I'll recompile, later. | |||
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softmoth | .tell JJMerelo, I figured out the Travis CI display problem; I needed to use travis-ci.com instead of .org. Sorry for the noise. travis-ci.com/github/Raku/rakudoc | 03:55 | |
tellable6 | softmoth, I'll pass your message to JJMerelo | ||
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suman | commit: 4d1ef59 say $*RAKU.compiler.version | 05:22 | |
committable6 | suman, ¦4d1ef59: «v2020.05.1.266.g.4.d.1.ef.59.e.8» | ||
suman | commit: 902401 say $*RAKU.compiler.version | 05:26 | |
committable6 | suman, ¦902401: «v2020.05.1.265.g.902401.b.79» | ||
suman | commit: 902401b say $*RAKU.compiler.version | ||
committable6 | suman, ¦902401b: «v2020.05.1.265.g.902401.b.79» | ||
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patrickb | o/ | 07:21 | |
tellable6 | 2020-06-09T16:26:10Z #raku-dev <rba> patrickb: Just stumbled over Dave Rolskys azure pipeline helpers for perl: github.com/houseabsolute/ci-perl-helpers Might be helpful by some means or others... | ||
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patrickb | :ls | 07:22 | |
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Geth | doc: gfldex++ created pull request #3471: $_ defaults to OUTER::<$_> |
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[Coke] | for @map-of-hash.sort: {$_<attribute>} { ... } | 13:11 | |
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[Coke] | is there a "nicer" way to get the attribute here? (I find myself often using .attribute here, which does not produce the desired output, oops. :) | 13:12 | |
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jnthn | [Coke]: *<attribute> is a bit prettier | 13:13 | |
Though you can use .<attribute> instead of writing out the $_ | |||
[Coke] | jnthn++ | 13:16 | |
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grondilu | m: say 7.Rat.nude[0] | 14:06 | |
camelia | 7 | ||
grondilu | ^this fails if I insert a newline after Rat | ||
can the evalbot read multiline commands so that I show you the error ? | 14:08 | ||
MasterDuke | i think it interprets  as newline. or you could try putting it in a gist and using evalable6 | 14:10 | |
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jnthn | When you have whitespace there you're using the `.` infix operator, not the `.` postfix operator, and the entire term that follows is the method call name, not a general termish, so stacking further postfixes won't work. | 14:11 | |
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grondilu | you're right. I added parenthesis and it works. | 14:13 | |
Roamer` | even though jnthn explained, let me just say that it doesn't even need to be a newline, you can do it with any whitespace: | ||
m: say 7.Rat .nude[0] | |||
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Missing infix inside [] at <tmp>:1 ------> 3say 7.Rat .nude[7⏏050] expecting any of: bracketed infix infix infix stopper |
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Roamer` | it's the same issue | 14:14 | |
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grondilu realizes that there is a 'numerator' method anyway | 14:17 | ||
check out my one-liner for problem 65 of Project Euler : github.com/Raku/examples/blob/mast...rondilu.pl | 14:24 | ||
jnthn | cute | 14:25 | |
MasterDuke | nice | ||
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rypervenche | Out of curiosity, why are the file extensions .pl? | 14:58 | |
Altai-man_ | rypervenche, this is an _old_ repo and overhaul is not finished yet. | 14:59 | |
rypervenche | Gotcha. | ||
Altai-man_ | I still want to find some energy to finish with web part and maybe we can even merge. | 15:00 | |
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grondilu | m: say (-1, -.99 ... 1).max(:by(*²)) | 15:11 | |
camelia | 1 | ||
grondilu | m: say (-1, -.99 ... 1).min(:by(*²)) | ||
camelia | -1 | ||
grondilu was expecting 0 | 15:12 | ||
m: say (-2, 1).max(:by(*²)) | 15:13 | ||
camelia | 1 | ||
grondilu | m: say max(-2, 1, :by(*²)) | 15:14 | |
camelia | -2 | ||
grondilu | What am I missing ? | 15:17 | |
[Coke] | m: dd (-1, -.99 ... 1) | ||
camelia | (-1, -0.99, -0.98, -0.97, -0.96, -0.95, -0.94, -0.93, -0.92, -0.91, -0.9, -0.89, -0.88, -0.87, -0.86, -0.85, -0.84, -0.83, -0.82, -0.81, -0.8, -0.79, -0.78, -0.77, -0.76, -0.75, -0.74, -0.73, -0.72, -0.71, -0.7, -0.69, -0.68, -0.67, -0.66, -0.65, -0.6… | ||
grondilu | m: say [-2, 1].max(:by(*²)) | 15:18 | |
camelia | 1 | ||
MasterDuke | m: say (-1, -.99 ... 1).map(* ** 2).min | ||
camelia | 0 | ||
grondilu | 0² = 0 though | 15:19 | |
it's not the same zero | |||
it was a bad example in the first place, (-2, 1) is better | |||
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MasterDuke | m: say min(1,7,3,:by( { 1/$_ } )); say (1,7,3).min(:by( { 1/$_ } )) | 15:23 | |
camelia | 7 1 |
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dakkar | grondilu: I fear the problem is that `.max` (the mbethod) does not take a named argument | ||
it takes a callable as positional | |||
m: say (-2,1).max(*²) | |||
camelia | -2 | ||
dakkar | the :by you were passing got completely ignored | 15:24 | |
docs.raku.org/routine/max#(Any)_routine_max | |||
MasterDuke | m: say (1,7,3).min( { 1/$_ } ) | ||
camelia | 7 | ||
grondilu | oh, you're right. I misread the doc | 15:25 | |
dakkar | it is a bit confusing that the sub takes the named argument, the method takes the positional… | ||
oddp | Yeah, have a hard time with that as well. | 15:26 | |
zip(..., :&with) | |||
reduce(..., &with) | |||
classify(..., :as) | |||
grondilu | it makes sense, though. Naming the argument is not useful in the method form. | ||
[Coke] | Should we unify that? | ||
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[Coke] | ah | 15:26 | |
dakkar | naming the argument is not *necessary* in the method form | 15:27 | |
grondilu | true | ||
MasterDuke | we might be able to add aliases for with/as | ||
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grondilu | A warning would be useful, though. | 15:27 | |
Also I'm surprised a method can just ignore an argument without warning | 15:28 | ||
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dakkar | I think most of them have *%_ in their signature | 15:28 | |
grondilu | m: class { method foo() {} }.new.foo(this => that) | ||
camelia | 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp> Undeclared routine: that used at line 1. Did you mean 'WHAT'? |
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grondilu | m: class { method foo() {} }.new.foo(this => "that") | 15:29 | |
camelia | ( no output ) | ||
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oddp | "<dakkar> naming the argument is not *necessary* in the method form" - but it is necessary in zip, for example, isn't it? | 15:32 | |
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dakkar | oddp: sorry, I mostly meant "not necessary, but would still be nice for consisntency" | 15:34 | |
I forgot to actually write down the second half… | |||
but yes, `zip` needs the `with` to be named because it already takes an arbitrary number of positional arguments (the other things to zip) | 15:35 | ||
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hoelzro | I asked this in #moarvm, but this would be a more appropriate forum - is there a good way to put up modules for adoption? | 16:18 | |
[Coke] | there is a github group for community adoption. | 16:20 | |
hoelzro | ok, thanks [Coke] ! | 16:28 | |
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hoelzro | is it ok for me to just hand the repo over, should I open an issue somewhere, etc? | 16:33 | |
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[Coke] | In general, open an issue. for something that's included in rakudo star that you are definitely interested in dumping, just do it. | 16:47 | |
my 2¢ | 16:48 | ||
hoelzro | sounds good! which repo would be the best to open an issue on? | 16:53 | |
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[Coke] | no clue. :) | 17:04 | |
lizmat | hoelzro: forked it to github.com/raku-community-modules/...-linenoise for now | 17:10 | |
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Geth | ecosystem: 60b7fc266f | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Move linenoise to community modules |
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lizmat | hoelzro: ecosystem should now use the community modules one | 17:18 | |
I'm not sure how we could import the issues :-( | 17:19 | ||
perhaps AlexDaniel knows | |||
AlexDaniel` | just transfer the repo? | 17:20 | |
why fork it? | |||
lizmat is a noob | |||
AlexDaniel` | remove the fork, then transfer it :) | ||
lizmat | how do I import it ? | ||
AlexDaniel` | this will move all issues and stuff, and the original repo will redirect automatically for most queries | 17:21 | |
hoelzro needs to do it | |||
lizmat | aha... | ||
well, he can, as the name p6-linenoise is free atm | |||
AlexDaniel` | and hoelzro needs to be added to the community-modules org, otherwise they won't be able to transfer | ||
lizmat | so maybe I should create a Team with the access right for importing ? | 17:23 | |
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AlexDaniel` | I think all members can create repos (and if you can create repos then you can transfer too) | 17:23 | |
but feel free to play with privileges | 17:24 | ||
same goes for the Raku org, it's even more complicated there | |||
e.g. see github.com/Raku/please-turn-off-th...ch-feature | |||
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AlexDaniel` | I have some scripts that can sync members between orgs and teams | 17:24 | |
lizmat | I've added hoelzro as a member | 17:25 | |
AlexDaniel` | let me know if you need them | ||
lizmat | put perhaps we're doing this the wrong way | ||
AlexDaniel` | maybe! | ||
lizmat | perhaps hoelzro should just give me maintain access to the linenoise repo, and then I can import it into community modules | 17:26 | |
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AlexDaniel` | I'm going out to enjoy the weather now, .tell me if there's anything I need to do | 17:26 | |
lizmat | AlexDaniel enjoy! | ||
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hoelzro | lizmat: thanks! I can transfer that whenever - I'll need to delete the fork first, though | 18:18 | |
lizmat | ok, let me first undo the change to the ecosystem, then I'll delete the fork, and then I'll re-apply again | ||
Geth | ecosystem: 4ec46ddf47 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Revert "Move linenoise to community modules" This reverts commit 60b7fc266f61e53048ef25abdbd8fe0df42386c0. |
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hoelzro | ok | ||
tadzik | oh hai hoelzro o/ | 18:20 | |
hoelzro | o/ tadzik | ||
lizmat | hoelzro: deleted | ||
hoelzro | thanks! transferring | ||
lizmat | so go ahead :-) | ||
hoelzro | transferred and renamed | 18:22 | |
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lizmat | hoelzro++ # and thanks for all the good work! | 18:23 | |
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Geth | ecosystem: 98a1bf75b3 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | META.list Revert "Revert "Move linenoise to community modules"" This reverts commit 4ec46ddf47679f07c288c173c57722970bc1fb5b. |
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[Coke] | lizmat++ | 18:39 | |
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jdv79 | a colleague just said "raku is probably the most user unfriendly lang I've seen so far":) | 21:03 | |
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cj | hey team | 21:13 | |
oscon2006-2006.07.27_12-37-48.dv <- larry and damian giving a presentation about perl6 | |||
I'm going to transcode to mp4 and publish it shortly. | |||
web.c9h.org/~cjac/perl/videos/ | 21:14 | ||
so far all I've got is the State of the Onion | |||
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lizmat | cj++ | 22:21 | |
cj | hey liz. I think you're great. | 22:23 | |
ln -sf perl raku | 22:24 | ||
lizmat | :) | ||
cj | I must have follow symlinks on already or maybe it's not needed within the same virtualhost entry | 22:25 | |
in any case, web.c9h.org/~cjac/raku/videos/ | |||
okay, copying some new content now. | |||
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cj | ingy: web.c9h.org/~cjac/raku/videos/oscon...-37-44.mp4 | 22:40 | |
the one after that that is your presentation. | 22:41 | ||
lizmat | weekly: web.c9h.org/~cjac/raku/videos/ | 22:42 | |
notable6 | lizmat, Noted! (weekly) | ||
lizmat | sleep& | 22:43 | |
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