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guifa codesections: sorry just got home, but yeah, it does indeed look like for some reason it’s backtracking 00:16
codesections That's what I concluded. I decided it was worth opening an issue: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/3890 00:19
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guifa Also wow. My InlineTest module is probably my most popular one yet 00:29
I haven’t even added it to ecosystem yet lolol 00:30
but codesections++ ty for the idea :-)
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randyl22 if a subroutine has 2 optional positional parameters with default values, is there a way to use the default value for the 1st and pass in a value for the 2nd? 02:20
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Fcntl (0.0.2) by 03MSTEMLE 05:07
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moritz randyl22: if they are named parameters, it's pretty easy :-) 06:12
tellable6 moritz, I'll pass your message to randyl22 06:13
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randyl22 moritz: that's what I wound up doing. I was just curious, though. I thought if I passed Nil for the 1st arg, it would cause the default to be used, but that didn't seem to be the case. 06:48
tellable6 2020-08-29T06:13:01Z #raku <moritz> randyl22: if they are named parameters, it's pretty easy :-) 06:49
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! App::Mi6 (1.0.3) by 03SKAJI 09:41
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cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! Math::Libgsl::MovingWindow (0.0.1) by 03FRITH 10:54
New module released to CPAN! Math::Libgsl::Matrix (0.2.0) by 03FRITH 11:02
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mendel hi Folks! 13:46
m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; dd *+++;
camelia WhateverCode.new
mendel i was expecting it to print <<whatever\n>> - what did i miss? 13:47
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masak mendel: that the `*` term in expressions create a small "whatevercode" expression, like an auto-lambda-ing... thing 14:16
m: say * + 2
camelia WhateverCode.new
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masak m: say (* + 2)(40) 14:17
camelia 42
masak m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say (*+++)(*) 14:18
camelia whatever
masak m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say (*+++)(42)
camelia int
masak is in a maze of twisty little abstractions, all alike
mendel masak: yup, my point is that my postfix:<+++> was supposed to be Whatever-aware (like eg. infix:<..> is) and not relying on auto-priming 14:24
i was expecting the compiler to see that i have a multi candidate for Whatever, to signal that it wants the Whatever object instead of a WhateverCode object 14:26
codesections masak: go NORTH
tbrowder hi, i'm having trouble with openss 14:27
module OpenSSL 14:28
lucs mendel!!!
tbrowder cannot find my native library which is in a non-standard place and is installed from source from openssl 1.1.1g 14:29
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tbrowder do i need a special symlink? 14:30
masak mendel: I know -- I guess the easy explanation is that compiler/syntax gets first dibs on decidion, and it decides that your expression is an abstraction 14:31
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masak mendel: it's a bit similar to if you define a `->` infix operator -- totally fine to do, but in a battle between it and the pointy-block syntax, your nifty operator meets a crushing defeat 14:32
mendel m: .raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *) 14:33
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Unable to parse expression in argument list; couldn't find final ')' (corresponding starter was at line 1)
at <tmp>:1
------> 3.raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *)7⏏5<EOL>
mendel m: .raku.say for &infix:<xx>.cando(\(42, *))
camelia multi sub infix:<xx> (Mu \x, Whatever $) { #`(Sub|77370832) ... }
multi sub infix:<xx> (Mu \x, Num:D(Any):D $n) { #`(Sub|77370688) ... }
masak mendel: this is also similar to how (currently, in Rakudo) infix:<&&> and infix:<||> can not be overridden, because they have magical voodoo thunkish behavior that needs support from the compiler
mendel i mean if the compiler always wins and auto-primes any operators when it sees a Whatever-star, then what's the point of the above multi candidate for infix:<xx>? 14:34
tbrowder same problem with other cro ssl dependencies 14:39
mendel yes, i see why `->` and infix:<&&> and infix:<||> are special - OTOH the un-conditional auto-priming of any operator sounds a bit confusing (considering that some operators have multi candidates with Whatever params)
i mean, i can understand that there's some reason why user-defined ops cannot have it, just i wonder why or if it was just me doing it the wrong way 14:40
thanks anyways! 14:41
lucs mendel: Doing some Raku these days?
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tbrowder i'm reporting public website access success with non-tls cro reverse proxy on apache. see florida-candidates.us 15:28
going to try tls next with a managed domain... 15:29
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Geth doc: 1b08242be7 | Coke++ | xt/final-newline.t
cleanup...

  ...leftovers from the whitespace test we copied from
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Geth doc: e2c7a87d12 | Coke++ | doc/Type/Signature.pod6
Remove unneeded augment, update explanation

Closes #3455
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linkable6 Link: docs.raku.org/type/Signature
DOC#3455 [closed]: github.com/Raku/doc/issues/3455 [docs][xt] xt/examples-compilation.t doc/Type/Signature.pod6 failing
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Geth ¦ problem-solving: fecundf assigned to jnthn Issue Extended identifiers- reserving :sym<...> scares me github.com/Raku/problem-solving/issues/225 16:36
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moritz hi all. Currently on vacation with crippled Internet (no SSH, no IRC ports open), so if you want to reach me, try email :-) 17:46
codesections ... so how are you sending us that message on IRC? 17:47
:D
moritz mobile hotspot
codesections I guess IRC doesn't take much bandwidth! 17:48
moritz yeah, but I have to switch my whole laptopt to mobile bandwidth, so I won't be doing that all the time
bye bye 17:49
codesections Very reasonable. And besides -- you're on vacation!
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Geth ecosystem: alabamenhu++ created pull request #532:
Add Test::Inline
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tobs m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; say Whatever.new+++ 18:16
camelia whatever
tobs what has special behavior in the compiler is only the `*` token which is otherwise an instance of Whatever. This is not what you want, probably, but you could have your own non-compiler whatever term and get in a habit of using that in places where you don't want currying to happen. 18:18
m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $† = Whatever.new }; say †+++ 18:20
camelia 5===SORRY!5=== Error while compiling <tmp>
Name must begin with alphabetic character
at <tmp>:1
------> 3) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $7⏏5† = Whatever.new }; say †+++
expecting any of:
constraint
tobs m: multi sub postfix:<+++>(Int) { "int" }; multi sub postfix:<+++>(Whatever) { "whatever" }; sub term:<†> { state $ = Whatever.new }; say †+++
camelia whatever
Geth ecosystem: e270637bac | L'Alabameñu++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Add Test::Inline

See subject ^_^
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ecosystem: 38e40133f5 | (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #532 from alabamenhu/patch-9

Add Test::Inline
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Geth doc: mendel++ created pull request #3599:
Restore epub and bigpage
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Geth doc: codesections++ created pull request #3601:
Update method signatures to include *%_
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mendel masak & tobs: i found it finally, indeed it's NYI and should later use the multi signatures to decide whether to auto-prime: github.com/rakudo/rakudo/blob/mast....nqp#L9968 22:45
thanks for the answers to both of you 22:46
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\o even
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Geth doc/master: 10 commits pushed by (Daniel Sockwell)++
review: github.com/Raku/doc/compare/e2c7a8...87be827b74
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Xliff mendel: Good stuff! 22:59
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