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v_m_v Hello. What is the state of Raku on Arm? I've saw the new propossition from Apple (their new Arm) it is amazing. It would be so awesome to use Raku there with the full performance. 10:23
MasterDuke it runs, but without the JIT. however, that's not quite as bad as it sounds, since a lot of the recent performance work has been in spesh and other parts of moarvm/rakudo that don't require the JIT 10:30
v_m_v Are there any plans to move JIT to Arm? Does web server would feel that difference? I know that Arm is not as popular as x86 but Apple is going there which will bring more companies to 5nm world. 10:32
MasterDuke brrt++, the JIT creator, has expressed an interest in acquiring a AArch64 device to work on porting the JIT to that particular Arm architecture, but there haven't been any concrete steps taken yet
v_m_v Can you give me some examples where the missing JIT would be noticable? 10:38
jmerelo Raku is out of the TIOBE index tiobe.com/tiobe-index/ We were barely in, but we're totally out now... 11:18
tellable6 2020-11-09T15:15:09Z #raku-dev <jjatria> jmerelo: Belated thanks for the Gitlab invite!
jmerelo .tell jjatria you deserve it :-)
tellable6 jmerelo, I'll pass your message to JJAtria[m]
JJAtria[m] :D 11:19
Altreus > programming skills are needed everywhere nowadays and there is a lack of good software developers 11:26
So what we did is we widened the net so now even untrained people can be considered software developers!
MasterDuke v_m_v: that's a good question. not sure i have a good feel for an answer, timotimo might. fwiw, if you have a workload you're curious about you can test. running with the env variable MVM_JIT_DISABLE=1 will leave all the other optimizations enabled, but turn off the jit 11:31
Geth_ Raku-Steering-Council/nomination-acceptance-tyil: b6937da125 | (Patrick Spek)++ | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt
Accept my (tyil) nomination
 12:20
Raku-Steering-Council: Tyil++ created pull request #38:
Accept my (tyil) nomination
Raku-Steering-Council/main: b6937da125 | (Patrick Spek)++ | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt
Accept my (tyil) nomination
 12:27
Raku-Steering-Council/main: a34da42c08 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | nominations/2020/acceptance.txt
Merge pull request #38 from Raku/nomination-acceptance-tyil

Accept my (tyil) nomination
Raku-Steering-Council/main: 8af9ea5836 | (Elizabeth Mattijsen)++ | announcements/20201111.md
Announce Patrick Spek joining the RSC
 12:28
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5quotemeta (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH 13:13
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5-X (0.0.7) by 03ELIZABETH 14:46
jmerelo the advent Calendar is almost here, and we need writers! github.com/Raku/advent/blob/master...authors.md 15:57
.tell guifa` this year we're going to need the articles before December proper so that we can schedule without any hitch. Please upload it to the repo, and I'll schedule it as soon as possible. 15:58
tellable6 jmerelo, I'll pass your message to guifa
jmerelo .seen tmtvl
tellable6 jmerelo, I saw tmtvl 2019-09-12T15:30:35Z in #perl6: <tmtvl> Hm, odd, maybe my local install is outdated...
jmerelo .seen nige123
tellable6 jmerelo, I haven't seen nige123 around, did you mean nige1?
jmerelo .seen nige 15:59
tellable6 jmerelo, I saw nige 2020-09-21T19:21:01Z in #raku: <nige> OK - no worries
timotimo oh no oh no oh no
jmerelo .tell Altai-man please get your articles for advent ready as soon as possible. I'd like to have at least two weeks programmed before the end of November.
tellable6 jmerelo, I'll pass your message to Altai-man
jmerelo timotimo: you up for an advent calendar article? Please?
timotimo i'll have to think of something 16:00
jmerelo Please do :-)
timotimo got suggestions?
jmerelo timotimo This year we'd like to make then beginner-ready, if possible.
timotimo what does that mean exactly? you should have a use for the topic even if you haven't raku'd much before? 16:01
jmerelo as in, no prior knowledge of Raku (or as little as possible). So anything is game: regular expressions, arrays, whatever.
jmerelo timotimo: well, kinda. I'd like people to get tickled by the fantastic way something is done in Raku, but also see step by step how something is done. 16:02
moritz I could write something about how you can make declarative APIs with raku
Cro-style :D 16:03
jmerelo moritz: wonderful! Add yourself to the roster, and start working on it :-)
timotimo should we try, this time, to give a "run this in some kind of online evaluation site" for every piece of code?
jmerelo timotimo: that would be in line with the beginner-friendly requirement, absolutely. 16:04
timotimo we have a variety of ways to write our advent posts that people use 16:07
it'd be good to have something that makes posts a bit more uniform, even when they come from different kinds of sources
(i.e. i don't want to force people to use a specific way to write the posts)
jmerelo timotimo: that would have to be the editor, i.e. me by default 16:23
timotimo: which is why I want people to have it early, so that we can have a round or two of improvements 16:24
guifa` jmerelo: will do, it's basically already written, just have to do minor touch ups on it 17:48
tellable6 2020-11-11T15:58:31Z #raku <jmerelo> guifa` this year we're going to need the articles before December proper so that we can schedule without any hitch. Please upload it to the repo, and I'll schedule it as soon as possible.
[Coke] ls 18:28
[Coke] ww. 18:28
lizmat tyil: looks like the CPAN module upload announcer is awol? 18:33
tyil lizmat: I'll give it a shove 19:07
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5getgrnam (0.0.8) by 03ELIZABETH 19:14
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5getpriority (0.0.7) by 03ELIZABETH 19:30
New module released to CPAN! P5getnetbyname (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
jmerelo guifa`: great! 19:33
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5getservbyname (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH 19:46
New module released to CPAN! P5getpwnam (0.0.9) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5getprotobyname (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5lc (0.0.8) by 03ELIZABETH 20:02
New module released to CPAN! P5index (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5hex (0.0.7) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5localtime (0.0.8) by 03ELIZABETH 20:17
New module released to CPAN! P5length (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5lcfirst (0.0.9) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5math (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH 20:32
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5opendir (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH 20:47
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5pack (0.0.12) by 03ELIZABETH 21:03
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5push (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH 21:18
New module released to CPAN! P5print (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5reverse (0.0.7) by 03ELIZABETH 21:33
New module released to CPAN! P5reset (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5ref (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5readlink (0.0.8) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5study (0.0.5) by 03ELIZABETH 21:49
New module released to CPAN! P5sleep (0.0.9) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5shift (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5seek (0.0.4) by 03ELIZABETH
cpan-raku New module released to CPAN! P5times (0.0.8) by 03ELIZABETH 22:05
New module released to CPAN! P5tie (0.0.13) by 03ELIZABETH
New module released to CPAN! P5substr (0.0.6) by 03ELIZABETH
raku-bridge <theangryepicbanana> holy cow 22:22
<theangryepicbanana> cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633...nknown.png 22:23
melezhik .tell tyil: congratulation on joining RSC! 22:25
tellable6 melezhik, I'll pass your message to tyil
timotimo i'm expecting at least part of that was stuff released to cpan before the bot came back up 22:27
otherwise that would be quite impressive :)
which is honestly not all that rare for our lizmat :D 22:28
tyil melezhik: thanks! :D 22:29
lizmat timotimo: it was basically a. making sure it the modules run on 6.e, change pod to emphasize Raku more, add some pod for future problems with callers $_ being the default 22:49
almost mechanical updates, but still not mechanical enough to write a script for it
timotimo ooh, damn 23:02
still, good work :)
lizmat has been behind the keyboard enough today& 23:13

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