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RaycatWhoDat Okay 03:18
Enums are doing my head in
If I want to get the enum member represented by a string in an container, how do I do that? 03:19
Figured it out 03:37
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tony-o tbrowder: `fez checkbuild` does a lot more sanity checks now. not sure how interested in that you are since you use mi6 but thought i'd mention it 05:38
tbrowder: the check will isn't very comprehensive until v12 05:40
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Geth ecosystem/alabamenhu-patch-2: 726c255a7b | L'Alabameรฑu++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Add Intl::Format::DateTime to the ecosystem
ecosystem: alabamenhu++ created pull request #579:
Add Intl::Format::DateTime to the ecosystem
guifa2 github.com/alabamenhu/IntlFormatDateTime <-- new module! This one has been literally a year+ in the making.
Geth ecosystem: 726c255a7b | L'Alabameรฑu++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Add Intl::Format::DateTime to the ecosystem
ecosystem: 7dab4f33bb | tony-o++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | META.list
Merge pull request #579 from Raku/alabamenhu-patch-2

Add Intl::Format::DateTime to the ecosystem
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holli hey guys. i am having trouble getting Comma to run on MacOS 10:42
it says it cannot find Java
I just installed Java8 from Oracle and rebooted but it still doesnt work 10:43
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holli Ah, I need to install the SDK 11:23
Not just the runtime
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tbrowder tony-o: thnx for update. i do want to use fez, but i just don't have time now. but i'll keep supporting yr effort as i can 11:52
tony-o: ++
El_Che isn't java included in the ide? 12:18
it's in intellij (I use comma as a plugin)
Geth doc: e777147bcb | Coke++ | 2 files
Add utility method 'tests' to return test files.

Similar to other methods already available.
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PimDaniel Hi! \o 12:45
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PimDaniel I've an unicode problem : using uxterm, raku -v shows me glyphs all unreadable. :( Is there a special police or special terminal tu use? 12:47
MasterDuke that's a font problem. you need to set the font in your terminal to one with the unicode characters 12:48
[Coke] so, I just did that doc commit, but am suprised at the syntax (which is working) of using $.foo to apparently call a method on the invocant. I don't think this is documented.
MasterDuke: do we have something like docs.raku.org/language/unicode_entry but for display?
MasterDuke i don't think in the docs, but not sure. isn't there something in the problem-solving repo? or user-experience repo? 12:50
PimDaniel MasterDuke: Sorry but my configured font yet supports unicode glyphs. 12:51
The problem is what glyphs does Raku print. 12:52
[Coke] PimDaniel: what OS are you on?
PimDaniel Linux Debian.
fonts are into : /usr/share/fonts/X11/
[Coke] I assume if it's raku, you're having trouble with the โ or ๏ฝข3๏ฝฃ ? 12:54
(and not something you're generating)
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Try a different terminal emulator
<ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Give alacritty a shot 12:55
MasterDuke he said `raku -v`, which now includes some unicode math symbols (i think it's the math ones)
[Coke] oh, yes. 12:56
MasterDuke PimDaniel: does this display correctly? Welcome to ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎ๐๐จโ„ข v2020.10.
[Coke] (those were stripped in a later version, no?) 12:57
MasterDuke i don't see them in Welcome to Rakudo(tm) v2020.12-86-g9c7b55612.
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Theyre still on my comp
PimDaniel Coke: The second of your chars prints into irssi-text not the 1st.
MasterDuke yeah, your font is probably just missing a couple of the glyphs we use
PimDaniel raku-bridge: <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> prints too
[Coke] m: run($*EXECUTABLE-NAME, <-v>) 12:58
evalable6 Welcome to Rakudo(tm) v2020.12-86-g9c7b55612.
Implementing the Raku(tm) programming language v6.d.
Built on MoarVM version 2020.12-85-g2d9899c72.
MasterDuke what if you try changing to something like noto to test?
PimDaniel MasterDuke : ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎ๐๐จโ„ข , juste the TM does.
is noto a terminal?
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Its a font
PimDaniel haaa ok! 12:59
MasterDuke free, has most of the unicode glyphs
PimDaniel I try...
Well : i tried a TrueType font and i can see all chars : mais qu'est-ce que c'est moche! 13:00
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> > raku -v Welcome to Rakudo(tm) v2020.12. Implementing the Raku(tm) programming language v6.d. Built on MoarVM version 2020.12. > raku Welcome to ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎ๐๐จโ„ข v2020.12.
Implementing the ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎโ„ข programming language v6.d. Built on MoarVM version 2020.12.
PimDaniel It's very ungly
ugly font i search for noto font... 13:01
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Noto is the default font on android
PimDaniel Ok : it's a pain to change xterm font! :( but it has always be. 13:02
Thank's to all of you i think i'll found a solution to my problem... 13:03
MasterDuke there should be a way to enable/configure fallback. then if your font doesn't have a glyph it will look in whatever font you've set as the fallback
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MasterDuke so you could use something prettier, but have noto as the fallback 13:03
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Alacritty uses ur comps default monospace font U can set that up using fontweak
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PimDaniel It just needed a TrueType font : xterm -fa 'Liberation Mono' -fs 8. The charmap seams displays more glyphs!! I'll add it in my menus. Thanks. 13:13
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PimDaniel MasterDuke: Yes i must write a ~.XDefaults file with just properties to overload the one in Xorg config. 13:21
MasterDuke cool
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RaycatWhoDat Could I get a code review for this? github.com/RayMPerry/kitchen-sink/...rover.raku 13:39
raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> What does DOC CHECK do? 13:41
PimDaniel I added : xterm*faceName: Liberation Mono\nxterm*utf8Title: true in .Xdefault and we can set the font size with : xterm*faceSize: 8
RaycatWhoDat Only runs the block if you call Raku with --doc and -c
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raku-bridge <ๅ‹‰ไบบ> Aint that useful 13:45
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RaycatWhoDat Is there a way to make .pred or .succ on an Enumeration wrap around? 13:53
Scimon Enumeration is a Role so I would extend it and override those methods personally. 13:58
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Xliff How can I force the default sub USAGE to execute? 14:02
tadzik can't you just call it?:) 14:04
Scimon So I'd make my role have a private enum that handles most of the calls just overriding pred and succ (probably with a private index I can wrap around). 14:05
(Other plans are possible of course).
Xliff m: sub MAIN { USAGE() }; MAIN 14:07
evalable6 (exit code 1) 04===SORRY!04=== Error while compiling /tmp/25VUA9QeZS
Undeclared name:
USAGE used at line 1
Xliff tadzik: Nope.
Scimon I don't think it exists unless you create it. 14:08
If it doesn't exist the default is to print $*USAGE. 14:09
RaycatWhoDat Scimon: Lemme try that.
Scimon m: sub MAIN(*@A) { say $*USAGE }; MAIN();
evalable6 (exit code 1) Dynamic variable $*USAGE not found
in sub MAIN at /tmp/DJLTwn0EmT line 1
in block <unit> at /tmp/DJLTwn0EmT line 1
Scimon Hmmm
Xliff Yes. That works.
Thanks, everyone! 14:10
Scimon NP
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RaycatWhoDat Scimon: Sorry, could you give me an example of how you would do that? 14:25
re: private enum and overriding Enum methods 14:26
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Scimon I'll test it and make a gist. One sec. 14:58
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Scimon Hmmmm.... Ok may be a bit more complicated that I thought but the example in docs docs.raku.org/type/Enumeration for DNA gives a pointer. 15:05
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PimDaniel sudo zef install rakudoc => no candidates fond matching identity rakudoc :( 15:19
*canditates found 15:20
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[Coke] PimDaniel: I'm not sure the new rakudoc module is "released", but it's at github.com/Raku/rakudoc 15:21
You can always git clone it and experiment there (or try to do a zef install . from the clone)
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PimDaniel Coke: Thank's 15:24
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[Coke] If you find any problems, please open an issue on that project. 15:24
m: class A { method a() { dd $.b}; method b() {'e'} }; A.a 15:26
evalable6 "e"
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[Coke] ... ok, how is '$.' working there, and why is this e, not "e" ? 15:26
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[Coke] m: class A { method a() { dd .b}; method b() {'e'} }; A.a 15:35
evalable6 (exit code 1) No such method 'b' for invocant of type 'Any'
in method a at /tmp/qu7vgnRuEz line 1
in block <unit> at /tmp/qu7vgnRuEz line 1
[Coke] m: class A { method a() { dd self.b}; method b() {'e'} }; A.a
evalable6 "e"
PimDaniel It fails on tests => No such method 'raku' for invocant of type 'Str'. :( 15:36
[Coke] m: "3".raku.say 15:38
evalable6 "3"
[Coke] So that sounds like a very old raku that doesn't know .raku 15:39
PimDaniel Mine does! Welcome to ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎ๐๐จโ„ข v2020.10
lizmat m: dd Str.raku 15:40
evalable6 "Str"
[Coke] m: dd "e"
evalable6 "e"
PimDaniel re 'dd Str.raku' => "Str" 15:41
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PimDaniel What is the problem in fact? 15:44
re '"3".raku.say' => "3" 15:45
Does rakudoc uses and old version of raku? 15:46
[Coke] PimDaniel: it doesn't come with it's own version of raku, should be using whatever is your default.
PimDaniel Coke: Ok but i do not understand what is the problem since i'v a recent version of Raku. 15:47
[Coke] how are you running the tests? 15:48
PimDaniel Like it's writtend in README.md
[Coke] Can you point me at a specific line? (there's a lot in there, and nothing like 'make test') 15:49
PimDaniel In fact i did not run theses tests : i ran : zef --depsonly install ./rakudoc and tests are i suppose a subprocess
[Coke] ok, so, zef. one sec. 15:50
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[Coke] ah. If you're doing "depsonly" install... it's an error in one of the dependencies. 15:51
so can you capture the entire output and gist it?
then we can show you which dep it's failing on
(I just did an deps only install here and it was fine.)
PimDaniel it started downloading modules in ~/.zef/ 15:52
[Coke] when I then run 'RAKULIB=lib zef test --verbose .' I get several test failures.
PimDaniel but i'v lost output.
[Coke] PimDaniel: yes, you're telling it to install deps............ 15:53
PimDaniel is there a log somewhere
That's the precedure written in README.md 15:54
[Coke] can you just cut and paste the output the command generates?
PimDaniel No
Is there a log?
[Coke] the command generates no output? how do you know it failed? 15:55
for information on zef, see github.com/ugexe/zef 15:56
PimDaniel I wrote it yet.
a minute ...
[Coke] I can't parse that sentence.
PimDaniel It fails on tests => No such method 'raku' for invocant of type 'Str'. :( 15:57
[Coke] Can you please cut and paste your session from where you issue the command to the failure and put it on gist.github.com? 15:58
PimDaniel I tell you that i'v lost it
I must run again
[Coke] so re-run it?
PimDaniel Coke: ok 15:59
[Coke] Thank you- will hopefully help track down the issue.
PimDaniel should i be root? to run install? there's nothing writen about this?
[Coke] that depends on you. I regularly run zef as just me, but I'm using it for myself and not sharing my raku install. 16:00
if you're running sudo, you're using root's raku, not yours.
is it possible you have a different version installed for root?
PimDaniel I see a .zef directory into /root/ too ! 16:01
[Coke] what does 'sudo raku -v' show? 16:02
as opposed to just 'raku -v'
PimDaniel Welcome to ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎ๐๐จโ„ข v2020.10.
Implementing the ๐‘๐š๐ค๐ฎโ„ข programming language v6.d.
Built on MoarVM version 2020.10.
[Coke] ok. that theory didn't pan out. Maybe the the output of the failed command will help 16:03
PimDaniel ok...
[Coke] but don't use sudo for zef unless you are trying to install it in a system location.
PimDaniel but is this zef --depsonly install ./rakudoc needeed? 16:04
[Coke] Yes. that says "install the dependencies this module needs"
PimDaniel ok
[Coke] without doing that, you can't expect anything in the module to work
it assumes you've checked it out in a subdir called rakudoc. I would cd to rakudoc and do 'zef --depsonly install .' 16:05
PimDaniel and may i install custom user? where does it install?
[Coke] but either should work
PimDaniel hum into ~/.zef maybe?
[Coke] I think ~/.raku
.zef is for zef while it's working: installs probably to .raku 16:06
PimDaniel yes, it created it.
the download process overwrites everything! hey man why not complete! 16:10
pastebin.com/b14yLm4W 16:11
[Coke] So the errors are coming from the module "Template::Mustache" 16:13
PimDaniel I think it's because it does not found Mustache
Coke: I think we need this => Template::Mustache::TestUtil , no? 16:14
[Coke] Yes, but that seems like a different error than the raku version issue. 16:18
it might be worth trying to install that module directly and if (when) it fails, open a ticket in its github repo showing the problem.
PimDaniel Notice that my raku is NOT the debian version which in fact has not yet a raku version. 16:19
I mean for stable Debian release.
[Coke] for you, do "which raku" and "which perl6" point to the same dir? 16:20
PimDaniel My Raku is in /usr/local/bin/raku
same dir for perl6
[Coke] ok. no clue how it's getting the error about .raku method not being found.
but the error is being thrown when you try to install Template::Mustache, based on the gist you shared. 16:21
PimDaniel it's a custom install of rakudo-moar-2020.12-01-linux-x86_64-gcc.tar.gz
[Coke] I don't see anything obvious (like it trying to shell out to a separate perl6) in that module.
PimDaniel How to install the module? I'm new to raku? 16:22
[Coke] 'zef install Template::Mustache' will grab the latest from the ecosystem. you could also clone it, cd to it, then 'zef install .' 16:23
(the former gets the "released" version. the latter gets "latest from default branch")
.seen softmoth 16:24
tellable6 [Coke], I saw softmoth 2017-12-13T15:58:59Z in #perl6-dev: <softmoth> Thanks again!
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[Coke] they haven't been on in a while, but I think ^^ is the author of that module. 16:24
PimDaniel Same error because like -rw-r--r-- 1 moi moi 126241 oct. 19 22:58 electronique_ampli_bf_010_pcb.zip 16:26
Same error because Template::Mustache was allready a dependency. 16:27
This is the error : Could not find Template::Mustache::TestUtil at line 5 in:
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[Coke] so now, please open a ticket with T::M ticket queue and paste in that error. include 'raku -v' and OS info. 16:28
s/error/command and output inc. the error/
PimDaniel T::M is a Raku module? 16:29
guifa2 T::M was just shorthand for Template::Mustache 16:36
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PimDaniel And to open a ticket? Where? on Github site issues? 16:40
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[Coke] github.com/softmoth/raku-Template-...che/issues 16:42
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tbrowder guifa2: good idea on curated modules. 17:15
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PimDaniel Coke: the issue is here github.com/Raku/rakudoc/issues/10 17:17
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PimDaniel Coke: the issue is here: github.com/Raku/rakudoc/issues/10 17:17
Coke: the issue is here:
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PimDaniel Coke: the issue is here 17:18
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PimDaniel hum 17:18
Coke: the issue is here github.com/Raku/rakudoc/issues/10 17:19
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PimDaniel hou lร ! 17:19
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[Coke] ... that's not where I said to open the ticket. :) 17:33
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[Coke] opened a referring ticket at github.com/softmoth/raku-Template-.../issues/40 17:34
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Legacy Hellohello 18:44
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lizmat /o Legacy 18:46
Legacy How ya going? 18:48
lizmat away ? 18:51
sortiz m: enum E <a b c d>; dd E.enums, (E but role :: {}).enums;
evalable6 Map.new((:a(0),:b(1),:c(2),:d(3)))
sortiz m: enum E <a b c d>; dd a.enums, (a but role :: {}).enums; 18:52
evalable6 Map.new((:a(0),:b(1),:c(2),:d(3)))
sortiz lizmat: Is that enum identity lost at mixing expected? 18:54
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lizmat enums are tricky... 18:55
I'm not surprised
sortiz m: enum E <a b c d>; dd a.kv, (a but role :: {}).kv; # This works 18:57
evalable6 ("a", 0)
("a", 0)
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sortiz It doesn't surprise me either, but I think it's a bug. 19:05
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guifa2 Enums are a bit weird, I still don't feel 100% comfortable using them (although part of that is probably because Comma doesn't handle them very well yet either so I get Teh Red Squiggly 19:22
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sortiz m: enum E <a b c d>; role R {}; my \N = E but R; N.^add_enum_value($_ but R) for E.^enum_value_list; dd N, N.enums, N.pick.kv; 19:48
evalable6 E+{R}
("b", 1)
sortiz A workaround when needed. 19:49
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